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evertlouw · Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Posts: 12

I happen to hold a B Iuris degree ,a TELF Certificate and various other diploma.The B Iur ,University of Pretoria,TEFL,Cape Town TEFL Institute etc,etc

Lobster · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject:

It's difficult to discern what wages and benefits were promised in the contract you actually signed. Were flight reimbursement, medical and travel allowance, utilities, extra work and paid vacations in your actual contract? Did the written contract stipulate that you both be placed in the same school or city?

I understand the gist of the complaint, but this particular aspect is unclear. If these items were in the written contract, your complaints are valid, but if they were not, and were assumptions or based on some loose verbal agreement with a recruiter, then they are not. If you've been in China for six years, you should understand this. You should also know that embassies do not concern themselves with their nationals' employment problems. So what's the real story here?

RED

evertlouw · Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Posts: 12

Why on earth would we complain about some aspects if we did not have a contractual agreement? Please, this is about a dishonest agent. We really think that it is high time that people like her should be exposed for what they are. As far as the embassy is concerned ,we can only say that we are always listened to and given sound advice by the consulate personnel in both Beijing and Shanghai.

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

Lobster · Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:36 am Post subject:

Yes, I just wanted a simple response to my questions. Were the items you mentioned specifically included in the written contract you signed? I have no questions about your qualifications or the legality of your visas. Just about the contract. The reason being that there is a huge difference between expectations of a contract being fulfilled and a verbal agreement being honored.

And yes, this outfit already has a poor reputation; which leads to the next question. Didn't you, after being in China six years, do even the most rudimentary research on them before signing up?

RED

evertlouw · Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Posts: 12

At the time Shirley signed her contract,there was very little to be found on the reputation of this outfit and the one or two articles she could find, was really without substance.Yes,the contract contains everything she is complaining about. Several verbal promises were made and not honoured by Sunnys.
We also had to assist a Canadian teacher,one David Penner to get out of China ,as Sunny had him working on an L visa.

Lobster · Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:37 am Post subject:

OK, understood. Of course a verbal agreement is worth nothing, and you cannot press fr damages through SAFEA if you leave your position. I hope that your post here will save others from making the same mistake.

I would be suspicious of any business promoting itself as a "club". Just what kind of "club" is this supposed to be? Obviously the kind used to beat FTs senseless and centsless.

Better luck in your next endeavour.

RED

evertlouw · Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Posts: 12

Clubs

Silent Shadow · Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: sunnys english clubs,chengdu

evertlouw · Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Posts: 12

7969 made that mistake. Laughing

dean_a_jones · Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 1151 Location: Wuhan, China

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

my apologies. entered china on an L or F visa with the intention of working on that same visa. i believe most posters knew what i was inferring but let me clear it up for those others.

TexasHighway · Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 779

7969 wrote:

Silent Shadow · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:28 am Post subject:

Kirkpatrick · Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 205 Location: China

This group of individuals are truely despicable. They have the local immigration officials in their back pocket. I ended up getting deported 2 years ago thanks to this crew. One week after that my brother died on his way to pick me up at LAX.