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eslteach
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 Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:50 am Post subject: How Does Marriage Change Visa Status |
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The other foreign teachers at my school and I cant seem to agree about how getting married to a chinese would effect the visa type and process.
Does marriage allow foreigners to get a longer visa?
Would a married foreigner have to deal with the same visa process (the health checks, etc)? |
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Lobster
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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In terms of a person working in China, it changes nothing. Neither does home ownership. It does, however, allow you to apply for a family visa. It would also be beneficial when applying for permanent residency, but good luck with that.
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Opiate
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: How Does Marriage Change Visa Status |
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| eslteach wrote: |
Does marriage allow foreigners to get a longer visa?
Would a married foreigner have to deal with the same visa process (the health checks, etc)? |
Yes, can get a longer visa but not one you can work under. It's essentially a 12 month L visa. After 5 consecutive years of that you *may* be able to apply for a 5 year RP. Can not legally work under that one either.
For anyone who wishes to work legally in China, marriage changes nothing for visa/RP as Lobster has also stated. Your work visas and residence permits will always go through your employer and have no relation to your marital status. |
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lockedinadrawer
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Nobody seems to know the facts. Getting married changes nothing and gives you no rights. The only "exception" is that are entitled (generally speaking) to a longer term L visa only. Marry a Chinese citizen and you can refuse to accept other visas (Z for example) and accept a longer term L visitor visa. You are not entitled to work with it just as you would expect with any L visa.
Being married for 5 years does NOT entitle you to a 5 year RP. I've already talked to the powers that be. You must first reside in China for 5 years and be married for 5 years (total of 10 for those that can't do the math). Then you must be part of the financial contributor base to China. Yes, you are assuming I refer now to Green Cards, etc. but the new rules as they are are in a parallel.
Getting married gives you nothing - so don't think it does, per visa status.
There is little to no truth about "permanent residency" as claimed above.
As a foreigner, if you intend to obtain employment, marriage affects nothing. Do your own thing as you would otherwise.
Constantly an issue, "surprisingly." |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| lockedinadrawer wrote: |
| Nobody seems to know the facts. Getting married changes nothing and gives you no rights. The only "exception" is that are entitled (generally speaking) to a longer term L visa only. |
If nobody seems to know why is that what was said before?
| lockedinadrawer wrote: |
| Marry a Chinese citizen and you can refuse to accept other visas (Z for example) and accept a longer term L visitor visa. |
This is confusing. When can you not refuse to accept a visa?
| lockedinadrawer wrote: |
| Being married for 5 years does NOT entitle you to a 5 year RP. I've already talked to the powers that be. You must first reside in China for 5 years and be married for 5 years (total of 10 for those that can't do the math). Then you must be part of the financial contributor base to China. |
5 years in China and 5 years married does not always add up to 10. Also, the financial contributions aren't always necessary. When I look at the requirements there are many ways to get the thing (I am guessing everyone is talking about D visas here).
If you want to wade through the crap here is a starting point http://www.gov.cn/banshi/wjrs/ymdj.htm
So as has been said by everyone posting, being married doesn't really help your visa situation in regards to work. It might help because you have more support from your spouse and their family, but not directly. Of course you can always have an L visa as long as you are married and don't get in trouble here. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| lockedinadrawer wrote: |
There is little to no truth about "permanent residency" as claimed above |
My friend, who has been in China 6 years, holds a Chinese permanent residency card, renewable every 5 years so please check facts before posting here. |
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tianfuoe
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: |
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How can you call something "permanent" if it needs to be renewed every 5 years? In fact, it is a 5 year Resident Permit.
"Permanent" residence permits are as rare as 7,000 kg Canarys and just about as hard to get. |
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Lobster
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:55 am Post subject: |
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GWOW
Is your friend an FT?
Was marriage a factor in obtaining the 5-year permit?
Does that permit allow one to work legally?
Is it a permanent residence permit or a D visa?
Thanks.
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Opiate
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| Lobster wrote: |
GWOW
Is your friend an FT?
Was marriage a factor in obtaining the 5-year permit?
Does that permit allow one to work legally?
Is it a permanent residence permit or a D visa?
Thanks.
RED |
Quoting this since I am also very interested to hear more information. |
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auchtermuchty
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
| lockedinadrawer wrote: |
There is little to no truth about "permanent residency" as claimed above |
My friend, who has been in China 6 years, holds a Chinese permanent residency card, renewable every 5 years so please check facts before posting here. |
They are 10 years for adults, 5 for children. Your friend must be a kid. |
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auchtermuchty
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| tianfuoe wrote: |
How can you call something "permanent" if it needs to be renewed every 5 years? In fact, it is a 5 year Resident Permit.
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Permanent residence means permanent residence. It's the card that is valid for a limited time (actually ten years), not the status. You have to get a new card, just like Chinese citizens have to get a new card when their ID expires. You don't have to apply for permanent residence again. |
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xjgirl
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| who in their right mind would ever wanna stay here permanently? |
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lockedwithhim
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| xjgirl wrote: |
| who in their right mind would ever wanna stay here permanently? |
Then why are you here at all - since you clearly have issues with "this place." |
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W.V. Orman
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xjgirl
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:58 am Post subject: |
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because here i have the free time to pursue interests
for the time being that's reason enough to put up with "this place" |
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