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Craig! · Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 202

my new employer asks me if there'll be no problem with PSB and foreign affairs bureau.
he wants to avoid fees and guanxi, of course.
(Funny that he knows less about this than i do.)

it's a 'small school', he says, a big school will raise a red flag.

i have a RP ('spouse visa') for 1 year, and a good work record.
so, should be no problem.
i know how it works... just asking for a bit of advice from someone who might know of such situation.

I appreciate your thoughts
but please no flippant or disrespectful response

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

I hope this doesn't sound "disrespectful," but what exactly is your question? If you have a valid residence permit right now then you should be working at the same place that helped you get it.

big_big_bang_theory_fan · Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 105

Seems odd that someone thinks Residence = Employment

dean_a_jones · Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 1151 Location: Wuhan, China

If you are on a 1 year spouse visa it does not entitle you to work, you would still technically need to be sponsored by a school for your z/visa then RP that allows you to hold a job (and is tied to your place of employment). If you don't, you are working illegally.

Am sure you are right that they are just trying to avoid paying for this, especially as you are on a relatively hassle free visa (i.e. don't need to keep doing runs/renewing). The biggest danger you face is that any contract you sign is not legitimate, and if the school decides to pull a fast one and not pay you/asks you for more hours etc. you don't have much of a leg to stand on.

These are the problems faced by undocumented and illegal workers all around the world.

Opiate · Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 630 Location: Qingdao

Going to second what the above poster said. A spousal RP...or more accurately a 'family' RP does not entitle you to work here. Not for a moment. The legit (for work) RP looks the same except the reason is work instead of family.

Miles Smiles · Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 1294 Location: Heebee Jeebee

Actually, a foreign teacher "small school" would raise MORE red flags than an FT in a large school. If your employer were even allowed to hire an FT, he wouldn't have to ask.

Be careful about getting sucked into a back street home school. You'll stick out like a pimple. My guess is that this is the kind of school you're working for. My advice is not to do it. The school isn't authorized to hire FTs, and the school itself probably isn't even legal.

Craig! · Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 202

Lobster · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:54 pm Post subject:

Well, by "can" did mean 'able to' or 'allowed to'? there's a big difference.

Yes, you can.
No, you're not allowed to.

As another poster noted, the real issue is probably that this employer is unable to legally hire foreigners. When his legitimate competition finds out about it, you may have a big problem.

You don't want to lose your spousal visa working for some shady, under the radar outfit that tells you in all innocence that they want to avoid fees and guanxi. They're lying to you now, and they'll probably cheat you later. If you want to make money, go with a legit school that provides the proper papers.

Seeing as how you've already referred to them as your 'new employer', it seems that you've already fallen into the trap. I'm hoping not to hear a sad tale of ripoffs or deportation in a few months.

RED

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing

If your boss does not even know, I'd consider not even working for him.

Why not find a job that gives you a proper working visa?

>>>>>>(Funny that he knows less about this than i do.)

I don't find it funny at all; I'm assuming you are not a native English speaker?