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zebra_fish2000
Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 14
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 7:01 pm Post subject: Is diabetes a hindrance to teaching employment in Japan? |
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Hi,
I'm a diabetic type 1. I was diagnosed about nine years ago. I have it under tight control, exercise regularly and eat right. I've had no problems.
My wife and I would love to teach in Japan. Is my diabetes a hindrance to gaining employment? Am I protected under Japanese law against discrimination?
I've noticed that most employers split medical insurance with employees. Is it expensive, and what can I expect? I've heard that Japan medicine is very good.
Any comments, anyone? Any fellow diabetics out there?
Thanks! |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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I work at a HS with a guy that has diabetes (don't know what type). He has had no problems/hassles from his employer or the government related to this condition. He has been an eikaiwa teacher and eikaiwa manager as well.
I can't say that "most" employers will split health insurance payments. In fact, many eikaiwas try to get around this with a legal loophole. They claim to the government that teachers are only PT workers because of their classroom time only (25-30 hours/week).
National health insurance is very cheap in one's first year, about 2500 yen/month. However, this is because the government has no previous Japanese wage upon which to base anything on you. Thereafter, however, the amount you pay skyrockets tenfold or more (depending on your city and location within it, as well as your marital status and previous salary). |
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zebra_fish2000
Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 14
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 2:42 am Post subject: Thanks, Glenski! |
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Thank you, Glenski, for your reply.
I'm relieved to hear that there are diabetics working as ESL teachers in Japan. It's also nice to know that the cost of medical insurance is quite reasonable the first year. Even at ten times that amount, it still sounds a lot cheaper than what I pay now. And I have medical insurance!
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: Re: Thanks, Glenski! |
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zebra_fish2000 wrote: |
Thank you, Glenski, for your reply.
I'm relieved to hear that there are diabetics working as ESL teachers in Japan. It's also nice to know that the cost of medical insurance is quite reasonable the first year. Even at ten times that amount, it still sounds a lot cheaper than what I pay now. And I have medical insurance!
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Glenski is referring to the national government health insurance (you pay high premiums in the second year based on previous years income but the doctors bill is only 30%). If you have private medical insurance that is OK, and you are not obliged to sign up for the national health plan.
Generally the dental/ medical care is good, but it's expensive if you dont have proper insurance. |
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 10:55 am Post subject: |
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While the employers I worked for were very personable and approachable they still exhibited the kind of narrow minded view that most Japanese have about having a "disease" as they are wont to call conditions like diabetes.
We had a teacher working for us (before I managed the school) who had a lot of other stresses in her life besides diabetes. But diabetes did make her tired more often than not and she was a bit negative when she got this way. Not really an encouragement to be around. Nothing really bad in itself.
ANyway, her relationship with the owners was a bit love/hate and eventually, she just felt it was the right time to move on. So, she gave notice and prepared to leave. Just before she left, a newsletter was printed. Just before distribution she enquired as to what it said. Turned out that they had told everyone that she was leaving because she was "sick" - undboutedly a reference to her diabetes and simply untrue.
Needless to say, there was quite a fracas in the office after this with one person in tears and I was on the fringe of all of this in mild shock.
So, while no one will fire you due to this, you might find that narrow minded views get you down and are expressed more directly to you than you might feel comfortable with. This is partly linguistic as it takes quite a bit of language to deal with a personal subject and maintain politeness but also, perhaps more importantly to consider, a cultural reason too.
Just something to bear in mind then... |
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zebra_fish2000
Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 14
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 2:27 am Post subject: Thanks again! |
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Thanks, Paul and Shmooj, for the advice. It's appreciated.
Do teachers generally take out private health insurance? Is it recommended? Or is the national health insurance satisfactory?
Guess I'll have to get used to being called "sick". I'm generally an upbeat person, so I hope I can weather it.
That teacher who was always tired...it may have been due to frequent low blood sugars. When the blood sugar is low there's a lack of energy. Hunger is generally the first sign. If the blood sugar gets too low a diabetic becomes irritable. Diabetics sometimes seem like they're drunk, but they are not. It's kind of like the brain shutting down. If it gets too low they pass out and can die. Fortunately, I usually know the signs and can address the problem quickly by eating something sweet.
It's good to be aware of the cultural differences and how they can be addressed.  |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 2:50 am Post subject: Re: Thanks again! |
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zebra_fish2000 wrote: |
Do teachers generally take out private health insurance? Is it recommended? Or is the national health insurance satisfactory?
It's good to be aware of the cultural differences and how they can be addressed.  |
I think what really stings people with national insurance is the high cost of premiums. In the first year they oay 2,500 yen a year and its manageable. in the second year they are still earning 250,000 yen a month and then finding they have to pay 10% of their income in health insurance and they are not 'sick'. There are also long delays if you visit a large hospital and you wonder where all your money is going.
I pay a fair bit for national health (about 35,000 yen a month) but my family is on my policy, which means my wife and kids can use it too. You really need it if you have a family, and it covers things like childbirth.
Im not sure about private insurance, though I have heard of people on the NOVA health plan and Global health etc. It all depends on whether you planto be here for more than a year, what your needs are and what you can afford. I was on Medicare from the UK for a long time and that covered me when i was out of the country, whereas Japanese national health only covers you while you are in Japan.
Some schools like NOVA will tell you you have to sign up with JMA before you get a contract with them, which is not strictly true- you need health insurance cover but it doesnt have to be with whatever your employer demands. National health insurance is voluntary to join though in some places its hard to get off once you start (the city office will not let you stop paying, even if you have replacement insurance) so be careful. |
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Sherri
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 749 Location: The Big Island, Hawaii
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 6:38 am Post subject: |
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I don't know if anyone out there has had good experiences with Global Health (a private expat plan), but a friend of mine is having a terrible time with them. He had to have emergency surgery while he happened to be in his home country of Canada to deal with a cancerous tumor blocking his colon--he was on vacation at the time--some vacation! Anyway, Global is refusing to pay out saying that the surgery was not an emergency, this despite letters written by his doctors in support. Just to let people know out there that Global is not necessarily going to be in your corner when you need them.
Japanese National Health Insurance will cover you even if you have a pre-existing condition--that is a big plus.
Also a small point, Japanese National Health does not cover childbirth, but you do get lots of freebies from the ward office, like vouchers for free ultra-sounds and a "present" of around 200,000 yen after you have the baby (the amount depends on where you live).
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Sherri wrote: |
Also a small point, Japanese National Health does not cover childbirth, but you do get lots of freebies from the ward office, like vouchers for free ultra-sounds and a "present" of around 200,000 yen after you have the baby (the amount depends on where you live).
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Small point yeah right!
Actually, they do cover it - even if you have a miscarriage provided the foetus is 14 weeks or older. You get about Y320000. This is not directly a payment for the medical costs involved which are actually a bit over that simply for the birth itself. Instead, it is a cash incentive for people to have children to boost the population growth. This applies to gaijins too which is good to know.
If anyone wants to challenge this I'll give you the email of friends of mine who had a child at a hospital in Nagoya. If this is wrong, they must have made some drastic changes in the benefits you get or it is a regional thing which I would find strange.
What do you think Sherri? |
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Sherri
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 749 Location: The Big Island, Hawaii
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is the same as what I wrote--a present from the ward office which varies according to where you live. Childbirth is not covered by the national health, it is not considered an illness. You have to pay for all the prenatal visits and for the birth itself. If you have to have some kind of medical procedure like a c-section, then you will be covered. I had 2 children in Tokyo I don't need to see email from your friends.
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Sherri
we had two kids born in Japan- the pre-natal visits the ultra-scans and the hospital stay for the actual delivery on both occasions was covered by my national health insurance (in Nara). We only paid 30% of the bill on those occasions as well as receiving the rebate. |
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zebra_fish2000
Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 14
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 9:34 pm Post subject: Interesting stuff |
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Again, thanks Paul, Sherri and Shmooj, for the feedback.
Well, it sounds like I might be okay with the Japanese National Health Insurance - at least for the first year. The succeeding years...I'm not so sure. I wonder if it's possible to purchase supplemental health insurance - to offset the costs. Maybe it's not practical. If you guys were in my shoes what would you do?
Is the replacement insurance for JNHI something you have to purchase before starting in Japan?
I don't know anything about Global Health, but that's a good "heads-up" to know, Sherri. Insurance companies are such sticklers, aren't they? I hope your friend gets that resolved.
My wife and I would like to have kids in the next five years. It's great to hear that the Japanese government provides a present.  |
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Sherri
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 749 Location: The Big Island, Hawaii
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Paul H
Really?! Wow, I have never heard of that. Everyone around me having babies here, Japanese and non-Japanese were not covered. We just got the odd free check up and the gift from the ward office. I also have private health insurance so was covered for my hospital stay. I was a bit shocked that we were expected to hand over about 200,000 yen in cash before I could be admitted (while in labour!) Have there been changes? Did your wife have some special coverage for missing work? Just curious.
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sherri wrote: |
Paul H
Have there been changes? Did your wife have some special coverage for missing work? Just curious.
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She was working full time at the time and got six weeks paid time off for the delivery and the time after. She then took off a year for maternity leave. She worked a few months after the time was up and then quit her job to become a full time mom as the commute was a killer. (90 -120 minutes each way). |
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