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BadBeagleBad
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 Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:16 am Post subject: Re: New Visa Process? Applying for the first time... |
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Thanks! I actually found an employer who is willing to sponsor me, which was a bit of a surprise, but it's good to know all the same. I have a friend coming here in two weeks who will probably need to do this.
I was told that it is helpful but not necessary to get your degree apostilled. I'm doing it anyway. |
It is necesary 95% of the time, I have never heard of them accepting it without an apostille here in Mexico City. If you come and it isn�t apostilled it can be a major hassle to get it done from afar. I don�t know who told you that you didn�t need it apostilled, but that would really be an exception to the rule. Even if an employer sponsors you you still need the same things as a person who is applying on their own. There may be RARE cases where that isn�t true, but I wouldn�t count on it. |
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djpresidente
Joined: 28 Jun 2011
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Location: M�xico, DF
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: New Visa Process? Applying for the first time... |
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| BadBeagleBad wrote: |
It is necesary 95% of the time, I have never heard of them accepting it without an apostille here in Mexico City. If you come and it isn�t apostilled it can be a major hassle to get it done from afar. I don�t know who told you that you didn�t need it apostilled, but that would really be an exception to the rule. Even if an employer sponsors you you still need the same things as a person who is applying on their own. There may be RARE cases where that isn�t true, but I wouldn�t count on it. |
The school has a lawyer who takes care of these things. I think they still intend to apostille it if I can't do that myself. |
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Samantha
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| The Apostille process doesn't get done in Mexico, if that's what you are referring to. |
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Isla Guapa
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Samantha wrote: |
| The Apostille process doesn't get done in Mexico, if that's what you are referring to. |
Agreed, Samantha. However, if the school has a lawyer with useful contacts at the local INM office, then he can probably get djpresidente's work visa without the apostille. |
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Samantha
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| Agreed, Samantha. However, if the school has a lawyer with useful contacts at the local INM office, then he can probably get djpresidente's work visa without the apostille. |
Two different things. I was responding to his comment "I think they still intend to apostille it if I can't do that myself". |
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BadBeagleBad
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: New Visa Process? Applying for the first time... |
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| djpresidente wrote: |
The school has a lawyer who takes care of these things. I think they still intend to apostille it if I can't do that myself. |
It will be interesting to see how they do that from Mexico. A document has to be apostilled in the country and state (if applicable) where it was issued. Perhaps they can get around it, especially if the lawyer does a lot of immigration work. But why take the chance? If they play hardball and you don�t have all the documents needed, they won�t even accept your application. And, what will you do if you decide you want to work independently? Or move to another employer? It�s really a simple process to do, and can even be done by mail if you have time. And that doesn�t take too long (and can take less some places, as they offer expedited service, for a fee). |
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djpresidente
Joined: 28 Jun 2011
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Location: M�xico, DF
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:27 am Post subject: Re: New Visa Process? Applying for the first time... |
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| BadBeagleBad wrote: |
| djpresidente wrote: |
The school has a lawyer who takes care of these things. I think they still intend to apostille it if I can't do that myself. |
It will be interesting to see how they do that from Mexico. A document has to be apostilled in the country and state (if applicable) where it was issued. Perhaps they can get around it, especially if the lawyer does a lot of immigration work. But why take the chance? If they play hardball and you don�t have all the documents needed, they won�t even accept your application. And, what will you do if you decide you want to work independently? Or move to another employer? It�s really a simple process to do, and can even be done by mail if you have time. And that doesn�t take too long (and can take less some places, as they offer expedited service, for a fee). |
Well, I'm back in the process again, and what I have been told by several people who've gone through the process or work in immigration is that since I got the degree in Mexico City, it doesn't need to be apostilled. We'll see if that actually remains true. |
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:40 am Post subject: Re: New Visa Process? Applying for the first time... |
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Well, I'm back in the process again, and what I have been told by several people who've gone through the process or work in immigration is that since I got the degree in Mexico City, it doesn't need to be apostilled. We'll see if that actually remains true. |
As far as I know, any degrees or certificates you have that were earned in Mexico do not have to be apostilled. That was true for a TEFL certificate I got in Mexico City a few years ago. |
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notamiss
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The point of an apostille (in informal and layman's terms) is to attest that your funny-looking foreign certificate really has legal validity, as attested by authorities in its country of origin.
That is why you don't need to apostille a Mexican certificate to present it to the Mexican immigration authority. |
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Adela
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:33 pm Post subject: work visa |
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Consider this.... my work visa was re-newed after a year in Oaxaca. The processor told me that there wouldn't be a problem if I changed jobs teaching, but would have to re-apply if I changed activities. So I'm starting a new job in Chiapas, again teaching. Immigration here will not accept my newly re-newed work visa and I'm required to start the process once again. So does this mean each state has different rules? Does anyone know?
By the way, I went out of the country in July and August and had the little slip that I was told to guard for re-entry. At the airport when I was asked for it, I couldn't find it. After watching me dig through my purse, the agent said, don't worry and looked for me on the computer and waived me through. |
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Guy Courchesne
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| Yes, while immigration rules are federal and uniform, I think we've all seen here that they are applied differently depending on the state you're in. There's also a certain amount of discretion an agent can exercise when processing a file so it can come down to an individual as well. |
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