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Vallen



Joined: 11 Oct 2011
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Location: USA

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:28 am    Post subject: Couple of new person questions Reply with quote

Hi, I'm going to be graduating with my bachelors in April and was looking at teaching abroad. I searched the forums and found answers for most of my questions, but still have a few.

First, I was wondering how likely it is to find a job that would start around late may/june next summer. I really don't want too much down time after college when i could be doing something. Was looking to find a job in an Asian country to help save/pay back loans. In terms of qualifications, I'll just have a bachelor's in psych, minor in Admin of justice, and a semester of volunteer tutoring at an elementary school. I don't have the money right now for TEFL cert.

Also, most of the feedback and stories I hear from people are from kindy or elementary teachers. Is it common/possible for a new entry to find a job teaching middle or high school students? I have some experience with kindy kids and while it's not bad, I think I'd be more suited for older students.
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Couple of new person questions Reply with quote

Vallen wrote:
Hi, I'm going to be graduating with my bachelors in April and was looking at teaching abroad. I searched the forums and found answers for most of my questions, but still have a few.

First, I was wondering how likely it is to find a job that would start around late may/june next summer. I really don't want too much down time after college when i could be doing something. Was looking to find a job in an Asian country to help save/pay back loans. In terms of qualifications, I'll just have a bachelor's in psych, minor in Admin of justice, and a semester of volunteer tutoring at an elementary school. I don't have the money right now for TEFL cert.

Also, most of the feedback and stories I hear from people are from kindy or elementary teachers. Is it common/possible for a new entry to find a job teaching middle or high school students? I have some experience with kindy kids and while it's not bad, I think I'd be more suited for older students.


If you don't mind starting in a language academy then you can get a job as soon after grad as you can get your paperwork in order (can take 2-6 months depending on the country you want to head for).

If you want to work in a real school then the start times and recruiting windows are country specific.

Depending on how much actual cash on hand you have available you may have to re-think your plans as well. Some countries, like Korea (go register on the Korean forums) require a small start-up fund ($1500) but take months to get your paperwork ready. Some countries like Japan don't take long for the paperwork but have large start-up costs (on the order of $5000).

Countries like Thailand are somewhere in the middle ($3000 start-up and the paperwork is not onerous) but the salaries for newbies is also low (about $1000/mo with no benefits).

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lucia79



Joined: 18 Jun 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is great and I'd recommend it in a heartbeat.

Reasons:
Low startup costs
Paid housing and reimbursement for airfare
Friendly people
Lots of things to see and do --- Travelling is great
You can SAVE a lot of money

If you want to work in public schools then check out: SMOE, GEPIK and EPIK

Take a look at the Korean Forum.

Also, TeachAway and Footprints are good recruiting agencies if you want to go through an agency. I applied to TeachAway and got a job super fast (within 2 months after applying).

Edit: What I meant was that within two months I had applied to TeachAway, interviewed, got a job, got paperwork started and completed, interviewed at a Korean Consulate, obtained the visa and was on my way to Korea to begin teaching.
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Vallen



Joined: 11 Oct 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips. I was thinking either Korea or Japan, so it helped. (I'll be sure to register on the Korea forum)

As for start-up costs, outside of a plane ticket, I'll have about $1000. I didn't realize Japan required such a large starting budget. tttompatz, what do you mean by language schools? Are those like Korean hagwons or Japanese eikawas, or are they something different?
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come to the Japan forum with your questions. Conversation school = eikaiwa there.

Yes, you need more than US$1000 for setup costs in many/most situations in Japan.
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I was wondering how likely it is to find a job that would start around late may/june next summer.
Not the best, since the academic year here starts in April. You'll be able to find some eikaiwa work, but that's about it.
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vallen wrote:
Thanks for the tips. I was thinking either Korea or Japan, so it helped. (I'll be sure to register on the Korea forum)

As for start-up costs, outside of a plane ticket, I'll have about $1000. I didn't realize Japan required such a large starting budget. tttompatz, what do you mean by language schools? Are those like Korean hagwons or Japanese eikawas, or are they something different?


Language school has many names, depending on the country in question, but they are all the same thing: after school English language training center (conversation school, hagwans, eikawas, buxibans, et al).

As to start-up costs, for the most part, you will need:
airfare, rent, housing deposits, food, transportation, visa related costs, etc. for up to 90 days before you ever see your first paycheck. With the exception of Korea and POSSIBLY China you will be hard pressed to make it on $1000 + airfare.

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Vallen



Joined: 11 Oct 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the start up was why I was leaning towards Korea. Since they seem to almost universally provide housing and visa work, that would just leave food/transportation/bill for necessary costs. I figure I could live off 1000 for a couple months with only those to worry about and hopefully not live like a hermit.

Since it seems like public schools are more rigid with their hiring dates because they only seem to hire at the start of semesters, I guess I'd be applying to a language school. Though I would like to go public at some point.
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