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Laxmatt



Joined: 05 Apr 2011
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Location: USA

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
Personally, if a school makes me work from 9 AM to 9 PM, travelling all over a city, working with a dodgy visa, breaking the contract, making me pay for what other schools give for free, and I am being paid what I assume is peanuts, I'd be long gone.

The abuse is obvious.

Personally, I'd find a new job in a new province on-line that offers a proper visa. I'd make sure that all expenses are paid, and make sure the starting day is a few days after my pay day.

I'd leave right after I got paid and not look back.

But that is just me personally.


Sounds pretty bad when it's all typed up that way lol. Thanks for the advice. Won't my current school cancel my residence permit/cause me major problems?
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Banner41



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my province I had 30 days to transfer or get a new RP which is doable. I did cover the cost of the transfer though but never the original cost of the visa....was about 1000 kuai
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Baozi man



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Additionally, it turns out that my school is not even legally able to hire foreign teachers, and my residence permit is from Shanghai, where I had to sign a shady lease on some apartment I've never even been to in order to prove I live there. My visa so far has cost me over 8000RMB, when I was told it would cost a fraction of that"

"To clarify: I meet all the requirements for teaching here and had a z visa which is now a residence permit."

It appears that your school in Mongolia is using a school in Shanghai to deceive the authorities into giving you a residence permit which you are illegally using in Mongolia.

Admittedly, sometimes it does seem that deception is the only course to pursue in China; however, you have deceived yourself into a mess. Obviously, you know that. Move on. Cut your losses. If you happen to get questioned about your residency, you will be in trouble.

I once came home and found local police at my door, asking to see my papers and wondering why I hadn't registered at the police station. It could happen to you.
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Laxmatt



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in Inner Mongolia (which is a province in China), not Mongolia (which is a different country).

Obviously I'm not fully aware of all laws and regulations in this country and assumed my school was doing things the right way. I wasn't trying to manipulate the system or something. Nothing like this came up when I was doing my homework on coming over here.
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in a similar situation a few years ago , and this is what I would suggest to you.
Find a cheap flight or train to Hong Kong.
If you need a cheap place to stay, there are small cheap and clean rooms for rent on Nathan Road for about 50 to 70 RMB a night.
Get on the internet and find a better job.
While waiting, enjoy a cheap holiday in HK.

When you get a job offer then you can apply for a Z visa at the Chinese consulate in HK, and enter China without any worries.

My guess is that your current school probably has connections with the local police and can still make problems for you if you try to transfer your RP to a different school.

If one of those two schools that you like so much are willing to help, then you might still be better off by going to HK and having the new school start a new Z visa and RP for you. That way you have no connections or obligations to your current employer.


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Laxmatt



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. Good to know that I can't get blacklisted from working in China over this.
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laxmatt wrote:
Thank you. Good to know that I can't get blacklisted from working in China over this.


This is China, and anything is possible...

But, I seriously doubt that an employer that is breaking the rules to hire you would go out of their way to cause problems for both you and themselves.
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also seems as though you are not legally employed in your current city, and a new school may not be able to transfer your (Shanghai ?) RP to a school in your current city.
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Laxmatt



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next question. Since I don't have a bank account here, what's the best way to get my money back home with me? I'm paid in cash and would have about 12k RMB with me. Any hangups there? Can I just take it on the plane with me and change it when I get home to the US?

Edit: Just looked and appears limit is 10k US, which that is well under. Is this still the ideal way to go? Thanks.
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laxmatt wrote:
Next question. Since I don't have a bank account here, what's the best way to get my money back home with me? I'm paid in cash and would have about 12k RMB with me. Any hangups there? Can I just take it on the plane with me and change it when I get home to the US?

Edit: Just looked and appears limit is 10k US, which that is well under. Is this still the ideal way to go? Thanks.


You are better off changing the RMB to dollars while you are still in China.
If you have a stop in HK then you can also change it in the HK airport.

The exchange rate for converting RMB to dollars in the US is not good, and you would lose a lot of money.


You do not need a local bank account in China to change RMB to dollars.
Chinese citizens can change up to $20,000 worth of RMB to dollars every year.
Just ask a Chinese friend to go to a local bank to change the money for you, keeping enough in RMB to pay for everything you need while you are still in China.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to say, I always change my money to US dollars and send it home, though it costs a bit in fees.

You might have a hard time changing the money into American dollars here anyways, seeing as you are not legally working here. Long story short: they ask you for your stamped income statement.

Also: do not tell anyone you are leaving. If you do, chances are the whole neighbourhood would find out in no time, including anyone 'assigned' to you.

Last time I tried to 'quit', the boss magically knew everything down to my airflight time.

Be careful of any Chinese 'friend' that has any connection whatsoever to your school.

Also, if you found the school on this website, I suggest you remove your post because it basically tells them who you are and what you plan to do.
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Laxmatt



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No stops in HK. I might know a Chinese friend I can trust to change the money at a bank here... No worries about them finding me on here but thank you for the tip.

Edit: I can't change it myself at the Beijing Airport?
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Baozi man



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make that "Inner" Mongolia.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't say for certain whether or not you can change the money in Beijing, but I doubt you can. In the past, I have had problems changing money to US dollars.

One year, I came to China to visit my wife and they give you a "money form" to fill out when I entered but I somehow lost it. Not knowing the importance of the form, my wife turfed it.

Later when trying to buy American dollars as I was going home, the lovely officials at the airport wanted that card.
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Zimmer



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't have any problems changing it at the Beijing airport, or, if not there at any stopover airport you go to.
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