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liquid8urn
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 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:37 am Post subject: EMPLOYMENT VISA QUESTION |
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Can someone please confirm if the information on this page is accurate?
http://portal.mofa.gov.sa/Detail.asp?InSectionID=2705&InNewsItemID=42558
I am caught between my prospective university employer and an agent office in Australia who disagree as to what needs to be provided for the application of the visa. The agent says the list above must be satisfied, the uni claims they only have to send a letter and a work contract!
Also, does the signing of the contract comes first, before going to an agent? or the agent is contacted after the signing of the contract?
Someone I hope has been through this... thanks in advance for your help.
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Badar Bin Bada Boom
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| Yup, I've been through it plenty of times, albeit via the U.S. You and your future employer should probably follow the agent's procedures. That's his/her job. The employer, depending on which one you're dealing with, may not be aware of (or even care about) the procedures. |
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veiledsentiments
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Could we have an issue here where the employer is thinking "quickie business visa" and the agent who is thinking "legitimate work visa"?
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BretHarte
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| There are plenty of teachers throughout the Kingdom who get brought in on shaky visas. It has the bonus of making it hard for you to get annoyed and switch schools. That often means a trip back to your home country and a few month wait. |
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liquid8urn
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I appreciate your replies but do you know the answer to my specific questions? Thanks |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Both BretHarte and VS mentioned the issue of the employer possibly having you get a business visit visa versus the agent's expectation that it's a work visa. You need to do some emailing to find out exactly what type of visa the employer is sponsoring you under, and then you'll have the answer to your question about which process to follow. In terms of the employment agreement, the agent must have a copy of the signed contract in his/her possession in order to process the visa. |
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BretHarte
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Good luck at getting a reliable answer from your prospective employer about your visa. You want to come in with an employment visa instead of a business visa.
"Contract" is just a word. |
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liquid8urn
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Thank you for your feedback.
My preliminary contract mentions 'employment visa'.
I think what I need to find out now is whether and how I can have my signed contract stamped by the Saudi Chamber of Commerce while in Australia. Anyone knows if this service is offered by the Saudi Embassy abroad or a Saudi Chamber abroad and in particular in Australia?
Thanks
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| liquid8urn wrote: |
My preliminary contract mentions 'employment visa'.
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It all depends on their interpretation of what that means... seems to be a very elastic term these days.
If you are not doing an extensive list of medical tests before arrival... and lots of paperwork... it isn't a legal work visa.
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plumpy nut
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| BretHarte wrote: |
Good luck at getting a reliable answer from your prospective employer about your visa. You want to come in with an employment visa instead of a business visa.
"Contract" is just a word. |
If the documents for the visa include a working contract, I assume it must be a work visa and not a business visa. I have someone who wants to hire me and the contract is included in the visa documents. |
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BretHarte
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| Don't assume anything about working in Saudi. They still hire people with business visas and a contract. The contract doesn't mean much except for what you're required. The employers side won't matter much at all. |
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veiledsentiments
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| plumpy nut wrote: |
| If the documents for the visa include a working contract, I assume it must be a work visa and not a business visa. I have someone who wants to hire me and the contract is included in the visa documents. |
This is Saudi Arabia. NEVER assume. Every day this process is used to quickly bring in teachers on visas that are not legal work visas. It is your responsibility to check things out and make sure what you are getting. Saudi Arabia is an easy country to get into, but can be difficult to get out of...
Again... if you haven't been required to do extensive medical tests and gather up reams of "certified documents," you are NOT getting a legal work visa. The reality is that there are many teachers working illegally in KSA and you need to know and decide if you want to be one of them. There are pros and cons.
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