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aspiringesl
Joined: 01 Aug 2010 Posts: 24
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:57 am Post subject: EFL Summer Volunteer in Rural China Positions? |
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Hey guys I have a quick question. I am currently studying full time in college but I was wondering if there are programs for masters students to go to rural china for 2-3 months during the summer and help teach English in impoverished areas? I wouldn't be looking to get paid but hopefully have my expenses covered at least.
Thanks in advance! |
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MisterButtkins
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Posts: 1221
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:28 am Post subject: |
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I live in a poor rural area. You can come teach my classes. |
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zactherat
Joined: 24 Aug 2011 Posts: 295
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Poor impoverished China, still only the second largest economy in the world.
She needs volunteers like my coke needs sugar.
Have you got any actual classroom teaching experience or qualifications? |
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dean_a_jones

Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 1151 Location: Wuhan, China
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:52 am Post subject: |
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zactherat wrote: |
Poor impoverished China, still only the second largest economy in the world.
She needs volunteers like my coke needs sugar.
Have you got any actual classroom teaching experience or qualifications? |
That is a bit like saying America has the wealthiest health care system in the world, so it's poorest citizens have no need for volunteer-based free health clinics. Even the most basic knowledge concerning the reality of the situation will help you understand why this is a particularly foolish statement.
OP--there will be opportunities, but be careful about those looking for you to pay for the privilege. A search of these boards should bring some ideas up as this questions gets asked regularly. Finding somewhere that would at least cover basic expenses should be possible. Try to find somewhere which can put you in touch with others who have worked with them before. Also, make sure you are aware of what going into a poor area will mean in terms of your own comfort and lifestyle while there. |
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zactherat
Joined: 24 Aug 2011 Posts: 295
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:52 am Post subject: |
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dean_a_jones wrote: |
That is a bit like saying America has the wealthiest health care system in the world, so it's poorest citizens have no need for volunteer-based free health clinics. |
What exactly are you trying to prove with this analogy?
America's healthcare system needs volunteers from China, who can't speak English/Spanish, who are both unskilled and unqualified (but hey - been to the doctor loads!), and willing to violate visa regulations? Just so they can go home and talk about their time as a charitable volunteer?
I pity the 'poorest citizens' that go to your clinics!
My point was to address the misguided notion that teaching English in rural China for free is going to make a difference to anyone except for the volunteer himself, and perhaps an opportunistic course provider.
Unless the OP is a trained/experienced teacher, I don't see how they would be able to provide an appropriate service. Better join a normal summer school, who would at least provide materials and support for a new teacher. But is that even possible, legally? |
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dean_a_jones

Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 1151 Location: Wuhan, China
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:45 am Post subject: |
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zactherat wrote: |
What exactly are you trying to prove with this analogy?
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I was just pointing out that just because China is the second largest economy in the world, it doesn't mean there is no need for people to volunteer and help out in its more deprived areas. I realise your comment was just a throwaway one and it was the question that followed that counts, but it just seemed an odd thing to say.
Should the OP be doing this? Who knows, they said little about their motivations and experience and until they do it is hard to really say much. Maybe they will answer your question and they can get a more specific answer as to whether people think it is a good idea for them to pursue. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:16 am Post subject: |
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I know of a program that is running this summer that teaches poor kids in a rural area. As long as you are not making any money doing it, it is not illegal. Volunteering is not illegal. There is no stipulation that says you cannot volunteer. Not sure how many ways to say this, but it is not against the law to help poor children with their English. And seeing as many rural schools have NO English teachers, you would be far more qualified than the local P.E. teacher who can say "One two one! One two one!" |
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7969

Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:36 am Post subject: |
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zactherat wrote: |
My point was to address the misguided notion that teaching English in rural China for free is going to make a difference to anyone except for the volunteer himself, and perhaps an opportunistic course provider. |
Why not let the individual choose and decide for themselves, instead of discouraging/ridiculing the idea?
There are plenty of ways to volunteer in China for short periods of time and one doesn't need to go through "opportunistic course providers" to do it. During the summer vacation some of my students, through one of the school associations, rotate on a weekly basis through a rural school in the nearby boonies teaching English to kids who would never get the chance otherwise. I've been invited to go a few times but I'm usually gone on holiday by then otherwise I'd do it. Students at other universities likely have similar activities and they're the people that prospective volunteers can/should get in touch with if they're seriously interested in volunteering for a short period of time.
I have done volunteer English teaching in the past, not in China but in Russia. I did this because I was curious about ESL and I was going to Russia anyway so I thought I'd check it out. I had to pay out my own travel and visa expenses, but I was given room and board with a local family for the duration of my stay. I was able to see and do things that most visitors to Russia never do - to sum up, it was a great experience. The whole thing was organized by a local man who ran English night classes for adults and he charged them a nominal fee for attendance (they paid whether or not there was a native speaker in attendance so the foreigner was a non-factor in that respect). This man ran these classes almost every night for nearly three hours so he earned every ruble he took in. Similar volunteer opportunities can be found in China - not everyone in this world is out to shaft the dumb-ass foreigner. Personally, looking back on my volunteer experience I probably got more out of it than I put in.
There's a website where volunteers to that program in Russia (from 2001-2011) have documented their experiences. If anyone's interested I can send you the link. |
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sistercream
Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 497 Location: Pearl River Delta
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:18 am Post subject: |
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I have friends who have been going out annually with the Amity Foundation, and thoroughly enjoyed their summers teaching in the backblocks of Gansu, Hunan, Guizhou and a couple of other provinces.
While Amity is a nominally Christian (Three Self) group, there doesn't appear to be any restriction on the faith or lack thereof of applicants.
Jianhua also accepts teachers for summer courses, but requires committed Christians. Buddhists and fellow travellers might want to check out Bridge Foundation or Gesonghua (the latter working specifically with Tibetans). |
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choudoufu

Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:37 am Post subject: |
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The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
I know of a program that is running this summer that teaches poor kids in a rural area. As long as you are not making any money doing it, it is not illegal. Volunteering is not illegal. There is no stipulation that says you cannot volunteer. Not sure how many ways to say this, but it is not against the law to help poor children with their English. And seeing as many rural schools have NO English teachers, you would be far more qualified than the local P.E. teacher who can say "One two one! One two one!" |
it's legal......if done legally. work (paid or unpaid) requires a z-visa
and (i assume) a work permit. i'd bet it could also be done with
an f-visa and no work permit. maybe.
http://www.visaforchina.org/STH_EN/visainstruction/249816.shtml
Work Visa (Z-visa) is issued to a foreign citizen who is to take up a post or employment in China and his or her accompanying family members, or to give commercial performances,implement aid or cooperative projects in China...........
(E) Foreigners who come to China to work as experts, volunteers, charity staff, etc without pay or with pay provided by foreign organizations should provide a visa notification issued by an authorized unit in China. |
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aspiringesl
Joined: 01 Aug 2010 Posts: 24
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for he link choudoufu, to everyone else that has said they have heard of volunteer programs, would you please be able to give me links? Thanks!
Also a lot of these programs seem to have heavy costs attached to them, does anyone know one which has expenses covered? I'm not doing this to be opportunistic, I just really want to help out in these areas while I am a student and not tied down to a full time job. I'm currently pursuing a Masters in Applied Linguistics, so I would assume I am a bit more qualified than other "opportunistic volunteers"! Are there programs sponsored by the US government? It seems like at the very least I would have to pay for a flight into China... why can't poor Americans afford to help poor people in other countries!!!! Haha!  |
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Simon in Suzhou
Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Posts: 404 Location: GZ
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:22 am Post subject: |
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I would also be interested in any links or or places people know of in rural areas where I could teach for a month or two in the summer. I'm an ESL teacher already working here in China (with a residence permit), but have egregiously long holidays. I'm not interested in working at a summer camp for cash where I'll be completely burnt out by a program where I'm being used to rake in money for some entrepreneur. I just have WAY too much free time and would enjoy teaching for a month or two in a place where perhaps the students don't otherwise have a chance to encounter a foreign teacher. Such cultural exchanges ARE often appreciated and valuable.
I would be happy to teach for a place to stay, even a homestay, where I could improve my mandarin. But I'm not gonna pay someone to work. Any leads would be appreciated! |
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dean_a_jones

Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 1151 Location: Wuhan, China
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:25 am Post subject: |
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This is probably more helpful if you are already here.
You might try speaking to local universities about any summer opportunities they have for programmes of this kind (like 7969 mentioned). These may send out students to rural areas around the city to teach or participate in outreach programmes, and may also seek to involve FTs on some level as well. Where I work there is a rotating scheme for FTs whereby a group of teachers rotates over the semester teaching on the weekend in a smaller town outside the city (i.e. you teach one weekend a month, but an FT is there every weekend, you share the work). They also do summer camps, outreach programmes and visits to schools with students and FTs. This is sponsored by local business and the government.
So check with any English language clubs or whatnot at local universities and see if any of them have heard of this (I would start with the top uni in the city). You might be able to set up some summer volunteering with a homestay even if it is not something they regularly do, as I imagine many schools will jump at the opportunity. Keep in mind some of the poorer schools may not be able to cover your expenses (i.e. they can find you a free place to sleep and probably offer free canteen food, but you might need to pay for travel and any other costs).
As I said, this is probably only possible if you are already in country, as it will likely require some actual legwork in terms of visiting universities and finding out about such programmes.
You might also see if the local education bureau has such a scheme, especially if you are based in the capital. No idea if they would, but as I said often they sponsor some of these university schemes so they might be able to give you a lead in terms of which schools participate in this, if nothing else. |
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choudoufu

Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:04 am Post subject: |
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buckland has a program for volunteer teaching in the poor, rural
areas surrounding yangshuo. according to their website, they
are running this program during the school terms, but are planning
(maybe already started) summer camps.
SIMON.....have you asked around at your school? check with the
english department? some of the teachers may have come from
rural areas. they should be able to set up something for
you in their hometown/village. this surely would include some form
of lodging (local guesthouse or homestay), nightly banquets at the
ktv, and all the baijui you can stand.
nothing wrong with doing this on your own if you're already here.
you don't have to depend on a volunteer organization. |
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Simon in Suzhou
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:33 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input! |
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