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Have you or would you buy your own classroom materials?
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sohniye



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I recently had a meeting with the boss of the foreign studies department at my university. We talked about using a text book (Inside Out) and when the teachers mentioned that the CD requires audio equipment our boss suggested we each buy a CD player for the classes we teach. Which, when you consider the Chinese teachers have access to multimedia suits and projectors while my classroom lacks windows (sorry, it has windows but no glass) is a kick in the teeth.


Crying or Very sad Dare I ask why the discrepancy of treatment? I could guess and assume it has something to do with 'high turnover' of foreign trained staff.

Hmmm, roller cut machines. I've seen those and they are quite nice. I could always put it on the wishlist and see what happens. I am also currently looking for the plastic animals and props too...not too much luck yet, here I come Ebay Smile
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markcmc



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sohniye wrote:


Crying or Very sad Dare I ask why the discrepancy of treatment? I could guess and assume it has something to do with 'high turnover' of foreign trained staff.



I think they're just trying it on. The university is actually treating some students better and worse; as well as some teachers. Insist that they help and that they buy the necessary equipment.
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sohniye wrote:
Shroob wrote:
I recently had a meeting with the boss of the foreign studies department at my university. We talked about using a text book (Inside Out) and when the teachers mentioned that the CD requires audio equipment our boss suggested we each buy a CD player for the classes we teach. Which, when you consider the Chinese teachers have access to multimedia suits and projectors while my classroom lacks windows (sorry, it has windows but no glass) is a kick in the teeth.


Crying or Very sad Dare I ask why the discrepancy of treatment? I could guess and assume it has something to do with 'high turnover' of foreign trained staff.

Hmmm, roller cut machines. I've seen those and they are quite nice. I could always put it on the wishlist and see what happens. I am also currently looking for the plastic animals and props too...not too much luck yet, here I come Ebay Smile


I don't think anything could be further from the truth. All the teachers have been here for at least one and a half years (except for me of course). Pretty good I think considering this is China.
The official line is that the foreign teachers are 'oral English teachers' as such, don't need projectors or computers. The window issue is meant to be getting fixed...

Apart from the issue with resources and room allocation, I have no qualms with the uni.
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teacheratlarge



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I�ve bought books regularly, about 2 a year, but there is no hardfast rule on that. When I teach at a new level or grade, I usually make a trip to the bookstore to see what�s in stock. I�m always adding to my collection of books and currently have 2 dozen that I use for classroom use.


Wow, it sounds like the publishers in Mexico don't want to give out samples. I haven't bought any English textbooks in years. I actually did house cleaning a few years ago to get rid of stuff I never use.
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markcmc



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shroob wrote:

The official line is that the foreign teachers are 'oral English teachers' as such, don't need projectors or computers.


Then their knowledge of using technology in the classroom to help in oral training classes is lacking. Have you pointed out how this technology could help in listening and speaking classes?
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcmc wrote:
Shroob wrote:

The official line is that the foreign teachers are 'oral English teachers' as such, don't need projectors or computers.


Then their knowledge of using technology in the classroom to help in oral training classes is lacking. Have you pointed out how this technology could help in listening and speaking classes?


Yes. But we get the same responce, 'resources are limited'.
I've brought my laptop in to lessons on a number of occasions, but the screen/sound isn't sufficient, especially when you have up to 55 students in a class.
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geaaronson



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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geaaronson posted Quote:
I�ve bought books regularly, about 2 a year, but there is no hardfast rule on that. When I teach at a new level or grade, I usually make a trip to the bookstore to see what�s in stock. I�m always adding to my collection of books and currently have 2 dozen that I use for classroom use.


Wow, it sounds like the publishers in Mexico don't want to give out samples. I haven't bought any English textbooks in years. I actually did house cleaning a few years ago to get rid of stuff I never use.


Why do you jump to such erroneous conclusions? Yes, we get samples for the teachers, but that does not restrict my acquisitions. I purchase a wide range of textbooks, many of which we don`t use in our classrooms.

The Mexican publishers do give us samples and I have 3 freebies from Garnett, a new start up. (highly recommended) which supplements my last year freebie from Cambridge University`s edition of the PET prep book.
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teacheratlarge



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

geaaronson posted
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Why do you jump to such erroneous conclusions? Yes, we get samples for the teachers, but that does not restrict my acquisitions. I purchase a wide range of textbooks, many of which we don`t use in our classrooms.


No, I can get samples of any textbook, whether I currently use it or not. So my point is, why would you be paying for the textbook, any textbook?

The one exception for me is for teacher resource books- grammar/activities. This I have bought in the past.
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geaaronson



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because the books I purchase are out of print. And despite conventional wisdom,there are older books that are quite valid for English instruction. Newer is not necessarily better. I hope that answers your question.
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teacheratlarge



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Because the books I purchase are out of print.


That would make sense.

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Newer is not necessarily better.


True, but one problem with older material would be context (time specific, I mean).

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I hope that answers your question.


Sure does, thanks for taking the time to clarify that. I find some out of print material online myself.
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