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(0.o)
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject: anyone know about the new Nova/Jibun Mirai? |
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EDIT: I worked for this company for 3 months. Jibun Mirai sucks
hey, this company that supposedly took over the old Nova schools has offered me a contract and a visa. I searched around google and the forums and cannot find anything about the company (jibun mirai). Literally all that's out there is their website and job postings.
The contract they gave me isn't super terrible, looks like 6-8 classes/day for between 240,000 - 270,000/month. It's not too great, but I'm tempted to take it just for the visa/apt help.
One thing that's not so hot is they've changed their contracts to be on a per class pay system, rather than a flat monthly salary. I'm kinda hoping this means if I'm not teaching, then I don't need to be in the office. They also don't know where exactly I'll be working yet and I'm supposed to leave kinda soon.
Anyone know someone who's worked with this company? How is it?
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ultraman111
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:50 am Post subject: |
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If its not a standard monthly salary then I wouldnt accept it.
You need guarentees to survive in a foreign country. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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well, the contract is for a set # of classes/month, so it's sort of set.
the overall pay depends on stuff like # of students in a class and if classes get cancelled.
To be honest, I'm not so worried about money. I just don't want to waste my time flying over and finding out that the company is trash/no fun to work for.
It looks like a basic English-monkey setup, which I can deal with as long as they aren't horrible people and pay me every month. |
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seklarwia
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| (0.o) wrote: |
well, the contract is for a set # of classes/month, so it's sort of set.
the overall pay depends on stuff like # of students in a class and if classes get cancelled. |
How is that "sort of set"?
If there are not enough students to make a class profitable, then they will likely be moved to other classes, and that class cancelled. That means that you are no longer working the number of classes set in your contract and hence not entitled to full pay. Same will likely apply if classes are cancelled due to no-shows, flu season, etc.
And what happens if all of your classes only contain 6 students but your employer based your contract on having 8? Is your employer going to dock 25% of your pay for reasons that may be more down to their overzealous estimations rather than your lack of teaching skills?
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| It looks like a basic English-monkey setup, which I can deal with as long as they aren't horrible people and pay me every month. |
If you don't have a set salary, then they don't have to pay you (in full) every month. Don't know about you, but for me, not knowing for definate how much I'm going to be paid each month and living in dread of flu season when crazy numbers of JH and SH students (the bread and butter of many eikaiwa) are all made bed-bound simultanously would have me classifying them as "horrible people" to work for. |
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ultraman111
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thats right.
So it sounds like if the gaijin teacher isnt popular and the class numbers decrease......you get the picture!
Maybe good for a visa and a couple months work to check out other options. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| seklarwia wrote: |
If you don't have a set salary, then they don't have to pay you (in full) every month. Don't know about you, but for me, not knowing for definate how much I'm going to be paid each month and living in dread of flu season when crazy numbers of JH and SH students (the bread and butter of many eikaiwa) are all made bed-bound simultanously would have me classifying them as "horrible people" to work for. |
These are some good points that I didn't think about, thanks for the perspective.
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Maybe good for a visa and a couple months work to check out other options. |
Yeah, that's kinda how I'm going to take this. 
I'm really surprised no one on here has a friend or met someone who's working for this company though. I have yet to find one blog/forum that's got someone sharing their experience. I dunno if that's a good or a bad thing. |
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TYO
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Hi all.
I looked at their site after seeing jobs posted on g---p--. Haven't seen any other posts about that company.
That contract sounds not so good-- unless when there is a minimum monthly salary/hours that they will pay you. I can see this being OK if that minimun is 200,000++ for extra classes, more if no housing help, in Tokyo, etc.
Is there a minimum stated in contract?
I'm curious about that company, too.
Let us know if you take it and what happens.
Best of luck! |
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Rio*
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Hey there, I was wondering if you went through with Jubun Mirai and have started working in Japan yet?
I am South African, and have been offered a very similar position to yours. How did you find the process? Was it all simple and no hassels?
I am also hoping you can reassure me that when I send my original degree certificate, that it does come back (I'm so paranoid that it will get lost somewhere in between here and there).  |
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