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junjun2586
Joined: 26 Nov 2011 Posts: 11 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: TESOL/TEFL/CELTA certified-experience finding job |
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Hi all,
I'm from Montreal, Canada, fully bilingual and looking to teach English in Mexico city. I've read, researched and heard about the CELTA program in International House. For those who have done a TESOL or TEFL or CELTA and had to find a job in Mexico, how was it for you? Are you glad with the certification you did? Which one was it? Do you regret not investing in a CELTA, for international reputation? Is anytime of the year possible to find a teaching job?
I would like to get a clear insight on how the job hunt is in TEACHING ENGLISH SECOND LANGUAGE. What your suggestions are, etc.
----i'm looking into Mexico city------
Thanks! |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:45 am Post subject: Re: TESOL/TEFL/CELTA certified-experience finding job |
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junjun2586 wrote: |
Hi all,
I'm from Montreal, Canada, fully bilingual and looking to teach English in Mexico city. I've read, researched and heard about the CELTA program in International House. For those who have done a TESOL or TEFL or CELTA and had to find a job in Mexico, how was it for you? Are you glad with the certification you did? Which one was it? Do you regret not investing in a CELTA, for international reputation? Is anytime of the year possible to find a teaching job?
I would like to get a clear insight on how the job hunt is in TEACHING ENGLISH SECOND LANGUAGE. What your suggestions are, etc.
----i'm looking into Mexico city------
Thanks! |
PLENTY of INFO on this forum.
As for doing a CELTA, it is up to you. Doesn�t make much difference in Mexico.
I did a 120 hour TEFL course in Chiapas Mexico. While it was cheaper than a CELTA, I probably would have done just as well with a $300 buck on-line TEFL.
No, no regrets about doing the TEFL course, I did get to teach and observe other teachers, do lesson plans, got some good resources etc.
Again, there have been a lot of threads about this same topic. Do some research and you will find plenty of info. |
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New Haven
Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Merida, Mexico
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:51 am Post subject: |
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I did the CELTA at the International House, Playa Del Carmen. I chose that site mainly because I knew I would be looking for a job in Mexico and didn't want to go through the hassle of having my certification apostilled. I am very glad I did it...for me. No one here (Merida) cares about it or, with few exceptions, even knows what the CELTA is. You have heard it is a great program. It is. Everything I learned in CELTA I have used and continue to use...and I've taught all levels, regular and business English, in language schools, universities and private student settings. (But NOT primary-prepa. Wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.)
I don't know whether schools in Mexico City know/care as little about the CELTA program as is the case here...but I would encourage you to do it for yourself if you have no prior substantive teaching experience.
Best time to look for a job is August-September for public schools and universities. Many language schools are on the semestral system also and, because of low retention, you can certainly add January into the mix. The only times that are not good are now (dia del Virgen de Guadalupe - January 1) and during Semana Santa.
Hopefully denizens of DF will chime in on the specifics there.
Best of luck.
Sharon |
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junjun2586
Joined: 26 Nov 2011 Posts: 11 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:10 am Post subject: |
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]I did the CELTA at the International House, Playa Del Carmen. |
I'm thinking of Playa del Carmen to do the program (soak up some sun...since i'll be coming from the Canadian cold winter )...how was it? Did you live in the residences offered by IH? or did you find a shared appartment!?
Yeah I figured I might as well do the CELTA if i want to move to Europe or south, then it wouldn't be the right timing to spend an extensive amount of money.
I just wanted to know because I have done some research and have read different information so I prefer getting the suggestions and recommendations from those who faced a positive/negative challenge and the "next times". Thanks!! |
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Enchilada Potosina

Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Posts: 344 Location: Mexico
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:41 am Post subject: |
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The CELTA is good to have as it has the magic word, 'Cambridge' on it. Any tefl cert will do really, though. |
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doublethinker
Joined: 11 Mar 2010 Posts: 57
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:46 am Post subject: |
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I did the CELTA at IH in Mexico City and I really liked it. Don't regret investing the money in it. I ended up staying in Mexico for personal reasons, but I did apply to a bunch of jobs in other countries, and got job offers everywhere I applied. |
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New Haven
Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Merida, Mexico
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Junjun:
I did the CELTA awhile ago (winter 2006), so some of this might no longer be applicable. I lived in the housing provided by IH and it was fine. I think everyone stayed there, and the fact that we werre all sharing the same space contributed to a sense of group camaraderie (sp?--too lazy to check). I declined the meal plan and those who took it were not happy, at least with breakfast. The cook never showed up at the appointed time.
I thought the program was pretty challenging, but I was one of the older students and was warned that it can be tough to keep up once you reach a certain age. I believe there were 12 of us...one or two flunked out and another fellow darn near did. What that meant for me was very little opportunity for lounging on the beach.
Cathy Poole was an excellent tutor...really top notch. The other person... not so good. I do not know if these people are still there.
I'm wondering if you have applied. The application process itself is fairly rigorous; I suspect if CELTA is as highly regarded now as then, they can afford to be quite selective. So you might apply if you haven't already...you always have the option of refusing if offered a spot. |
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doublethinker
Joined: 11 Mar 2010 Posts: 57
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, another thought occurred to me...
If you are Francophone, there's also a lot of demand for French teachers, at least from what I've seen. Mexicans really dig French. |
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junjun2586
Joined: 26 Nov 2011 Posts: 11 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:52 am Post subject: |
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doublethinker wrote: |
Oh yeah, another thought occurred to me...
If you are Francophone, there's also a lot of demand for French teachers, at least from what I've seen. Mexicans really dig French. |
Hey doublethinker!!
I am francophone and yes i've noticed that Mexicans dig French ...in D.F.mostly, there are a lot of French people there too. I tried contacting alliance fran�aise but they never got back to me. Do you know anyone who has done a certifictae to teach FSL? or were they giving private lessons? Any leads would help! Thanks! |
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junjun2586
Joined: 26 Nov 2011 Posts: 11 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:05 am Post subject: |
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New Haven wrote: |
Junjun:
I did the CELTA awhile ago (winter 2006), so some of this might no longer be applicable. I lived in the housing provided by IH and it was fine. I think everyone stayed there, and the fact that we werre all sharing the same space contributed to a sense of group camaraderie (sp?--too lazy to check). I declined the meal plan and those who took it were not happy, at least with breakfast. The cook never showed up at the appointed time.
I thought the program was pretty challenging, but I was one of the older students and was warned that it can be tough to keep up once you reach a certain age. I believe there were 12 of us...one or two flunked out and another fellow darn near did. What that meant for me was very little opportunity for lounging on the beach.
Cathy Poole was an excellent tutor...really top notch. The other person... not so good. I do not know if these people are still there.
I'm wondering if you have applied. The application process itself is fairly rigorous; I suspect if CELTA is as highly regarded now as then, they can afford to be quite selective. So you might apply if you haven't already...you always have the option of refusing if offered a spot. |
Hey!! Thanks for sharing your experience. I did get accepted into the program which I will be doing in Playa del Carmen. I am well aware of the intensity of the course....luckily I graduated from uni 1 1/2 yrs so it's still fresh in my memory the lack of sleep that awaits me hahaha
For housing, I think it's ridiculously expensive, I'm looking into couchsurfing to find people who are looking for roommates for the month I will be staying there...It would be nice to keep in touch with you or to send me a private message of your experience, ur suggestions, comments, opinions, etc. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:01 am Post subject: |
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junjun2586 wrote: |
doublethinker wrote: |
Oh yeah, another thought occurred to me...
If you are Francophone, there's also a lot of demand for French teachers, at least from what I've seen. Mexicans really dig French. |
Hey doublethinker!!
I am francophone and yes i've noticed that Mexicans dig French ...in D.F.mostly, there are a lot of French people there too. I tried contacting alliance fran�aise but they never got back to me. Do you know anyone who has done a certifictae to teach FSL? or were they giving private lessons? Any leads would help! Thanks! |
I don't think the Alianza pays very well, from what some have told me. You might do a lot better giving private lessons on your own. Beyond that, language schools dealing primarily in English sometimes hire for the odd French class that comes up and in those cases you should always set the price yourself since it is hard to come up with a teacher for such classes. |
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Enchilada Potosina

Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Posts: 344 Location: Mexico
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:08 am Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
junjun2586 wrote: |
doublethinker wrote: |
Oh yeah, another thought occurred to me...
If you are Francophone, there's also a lot of demand for French teachers, at least from what I've seen. Mexicans really dig French. |
Hey doublethinker!!
I am francophone and yes i've noticed that Mexicans dig French ...in D.F.mostly, there are a lot of French people there too. I tried contacting alliance fran�aise but they never got back to me. Do you know anyone who has done a certifictae to teach FSL? or were they giving private lessons? Any leads would help! Thanks! |
I don't think the Alianza pays very well, from what some have told me. You might do a lot better giving private lessons on your own. Beyond that, language schools dealing primarily in English sometimes hire for the odd French class that comes up and in those cases you should always set the price yourself since it is hard to come up with a teacher for such classes. |
I got a few French teaching gigs just on my C1 level cert and there is a lot of work. Guy makes a good point - you should charge more as French teachers aren't ten a penny. Here are a few places you could get French classes:
UVM - if you can stand the kids
ITESM
Culinary Schools - especially the upmarket ones, offer French.
Language schools - if there's nothing else and you need beer money. |
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reddevil79

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 234 Location: Neither here nor there
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, don't sell yourself short when it comes to giving private French classes. I was offered silly money to give private classes when I was in Guadalajara, it's a status thing more than anything. Anywhere where the wealthy congregate (gyms, private schools, etc.) is a good place to advertise. |
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BadBeagleBad

Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 1186 Location: 24.18105,-103.25185
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:01 am Post subject: |
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And, if you end up in DF, some of the tonier High Schools (Miraflores, for example), require TWO languages to graduate, so advertising there would be a good way to get some students to tutor as well. And they all have money, and won't mind paying a native French speaker. |
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EFLeducator

Joined: 16 Dec 2011 Posts: 595 Location: NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:07 am Post subject: Re: TESOL/TEFL/CELTA certified-experience finding job |
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junjun2586 wrote: |
Hi all,
I'm from Montreal, Canada, fully bilingual and looking to teach English in Mexico city. I've read, researched and heard about the CELTA program in International House. For those who have done a TESOL or TEFL or CELTA and had to find a job in Mexico, how was it for you? Are you glad with the certification you did? Which one was it? Do you regret not investing in a CELTA, for international reputation? Is anytime of the year possible to find a teaching job?
I would like to get a clear insight on how the job hunt is in TEACHING ENGLISH SECOND LANGUAGE. What your suggestions are, etc.
----i'm looking into Mexico city------
Thanks! |
I don't think that the mighty CELTA will help you all that much in Mexico City. EFL salaries are low in DF. That's the reality of EFL there. Try a colegio and you might get around 8 to 9,000 pesos a month. remember that the ones that pay well usually have TONS of people applying for them so it won't be easy amigo. Good luck. |
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