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SahanRiddhi
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 Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Baozi man wrote: |
| Look at your purchasing power based on your salary, not the exchange rate. |
Valid only if you are cutting off all ties to the western world and living like a local. As long as you are taking trips home, considering moving back home, paying student loans back home, saving up for your kids to go to college back home, planning to retire back home, etc., you have to think about things in your home currency. If you are Israel Epstein, then maybe you can think only in terms of local purchasing power. |
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dean_a_jones
Joined: 03 Jul 2009
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Location: Wuhan, China
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| SahanRiddhi wrote: |
| Baozi man wrote: |
| Look at your purchasing power based on your salary, not the exchange rate. |
Valid only if you are cutting off all ties to the western world and living like a local. As long as you are taking trips home, considering moving back home, paying student loans back home, saving up for your kids to go to college back home, planning to retire back home, etc., you have to think about things in your home currency. |
I actually think both of these are good points to consider, and will depend on each individual's circumstances, age, outlook, financial history, future plans etc. |
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jibbs
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:31 am Post subject: |
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"OTOH, certain things are more expensive. For example, kitchen appliances. A crock pot costs ~130RMB. Probably get one in the States for less than $50 "
Did you mistype a number there somewhere? |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| Baozi man wrote: |
Let's put the money issue in perspective.
Say you earned ~ $5000 /monthly in the States. Say you earn ~ 5000RMB/mo in China. China is a much better deal. |
Respectfully disagree on so many levels I do not know where to begin to start. I'll forgo all the explanation except to say at the end of one month earning $5000 a month in the States, personally I'd have a lot more than 5000RMB left over.
This all changes of course if I am young, single, and living life strictly for 'at the moment' instead of the future. |
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WaystoGo
Joined: 17 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| Baozi man wrote: |
Being mocked as a laowai is a downer; however, I don't have to think about being shot/beaten by a black man.
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Jeepers !! did you really say that????????????...yea, you probably need to stay in China.. you can think about Chinese thieves, muggers, gangsters who you probably can handle... |
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Cyberkada
Joined: 04 Dec 2011
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Location: Xi'an, China
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Opiate wrote: |
| WaystoGo wrote: |
| Baozi man wrote: |
Being mocked as a laowai is a downer; however, I don't have to think about being shot/beaten by a black man.
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Jeepers !! did you really say that????????????...yea, you probably need to stay in China.. you can think about Chinese thieves, muggers, gangsters who you probably can handle... |
/shrug
I know this is off topic but I certainly feel safer in China than in the States.
I take public buses no less than 3 times a day. Have done so for nearly two years. Have yet to see a fight on a bus. Have not had my wallet stolen. Have not even seen any crazy drunk/high people doing stupid/dangerous shit. Have seen drunk folks but they have been quite peaceful about it. Even the beggars at the stations are tame.
I have no fear of being shot or stabbed because I looked at somebody wrong or bumped into somebody accidentally on the street. I can wear any color shirt I choose. I do not have hear bass pumping 3 city blocks away from an '86 Honda worth $500 but rocks out a $4k stereo. I can walk anywhere (so far) and have zero fear. Nobody is going to kill me for my X-Box or sneakers. I have never seen or heard of a drive-by shooting. When my children are old enough to go to school, I will not worry about another kid bringing a gun to school and going apeshit.
Were this New York City I do not believe I'd be so fortunate. |
All true. But.. compared to the serenity of riding the bus in Europe (I would never go to certain areas of New York, Chicago or Los Angeles... far too dangerous), the actual riding of the bus here is an experience. 2x everyone flew out of their seats by the the wonderful driving here...
What does black have to do with it? The key word here should be inner city thug trash, regardless of color.
Here, (Xi'an anyways) you only have to worry about the Chicago-style police shakedown... |
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WaystoGo
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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precisely my point, Cyberkada...why was it necessary to point out a race at all?...OP seems to be interested in perpetuating the stereotypes hyped by the western media..hopefully is NOT taking that trash to class.
Incidentally, the majority of women in my city (a 2nd tier city in the SE) drape their purses over their heads and across their shoulders to discourage the purse thieves who carry razors on their scooters to snatch handbags off unsuspecting shoulders or rip the bottoms of handbags for the paltry loot to drop to the ground for their recovery. And what?...I have been here 6 mos. and have not seen a black man in this entire city of 7 million...crime can be and is committed by ANY low life .. |
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dean_a_jones
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 39.4% of the total prison and jail population in 2009. According to the 2010 census of the US Census Bureau blacks (including Hispanic blacks) comprised 12.6% of the US population.[/b] |
So less then 12% of the US population constitutes almost 40% of prison inmates.
Yeah...blame the media. |
No...but something is amiss. Methinks it ain't the skin. |
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SahanRiddhi
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I've ridden buses extensively in a very urban U.S. city. Most of the other passengers have been black. In many cases the routes have gone right through African American ghettos, because that's the way you get downtown to the main station. I've ridden during the day and during the night. I've sat next to -- gasp -- black people. Nothing has happened to me yet. I think some posters need to get out into the real world a little more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_world_syndrome |
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Cyberkada
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| SahanRiddhi wrote: |
I've ridden buses extensively in a very urban U.S. city. Most of the other passengers have been black. In many cases the routes have gone right through African American ghettos, because that's the way you get downtown to the main station. I've ridden during the day and during the night. I've sat next to -- gasp -- black people. Nothing has happened to me yet. I think some posters need to get out into the real world a little more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_world_syndrome |
I taught HS in South Central. I used to go to the colonias in Tijuana and the suburbs outside of Paris. I was fine. I grew up north of Chicago (now 95% Mexican) I was fine... I lived near the squatter areas in the Philippines (Tondo, Payatas) and traveled in Mindanao... I lived in amongst Muslims in Bahrain, Indonesia and Pakistan, again, I was fine.
I actual feel more afraid here in China due to the sheer powerlessness a foreigner feels in the police system/ culture, not by the so-called thieves, muggers and holduppers here.
Now back on topic... Purely based upon internal Chinese economics will determine our future salaries. Has/ will the bubble burst? With the well-off continue to pay the schools large sums of RMB and us in turn get a small part of that? A lot will depend on the new social taxes... can the school afford us and can we afford the haircut we are all expecting? |
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CJD
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Baozi man wrote: |
Say you earned ~ $5000 /monthly in the States. Say you earn ~ 5000RMB/mo in China. China is a much better deal.
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you are wrong. very very very wrong. |
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dean_a_jones
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| CJD wrote: |
| Baozi man wrote: |
Say you earned ~ $5000 /monthly in the States. Say you earn ~ 5000RMB/mo in China. China is a much better deal.
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you are wrong. very very very wrong. |
why? |
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SahanRiddhi
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I shook hands with a person who makes less than U.S. $30,000 a year. I live next door to a person with dark skin. I went to Target and a welfare mother was in the next aisle. A Muslim was on my flight.
I haven't been murdered yet.
Can you believe it?
Just what are the odds? |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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| Thread locked due to racist postings. If your postings were deleted, you are officially on the thinnest of ice here. |
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