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[Cairnsman]

[bluetortilla]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDkQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Flaw.du.edu%2Fdocuments%2Fdjilp%2F37No3%2FCombating-Child-Sex-Tourism-Southeast-Asia-Kelly-M-Cotter.pdf&ei=mcf-TsquOKXImAWM7O2zAg&usg=AFQjCNE6-RIxAOtZkDPPbxPCB66xc1i6QA

Do we really have to turn the forum into a bloody tabloid?

I do understand your concern for protecting children and I share that concern. I want it stopped just as much as you, and if my children were ever abused then God help the man if I could ever get my hands on him. But sadly there is unrelenting brutality happening all over this world even as we speak and I doubt that surveillance is going to stop it. We should find better, less fear-driven ways to protect the innocent. I do see you have a point, but if we go down this path then why don't we just start implanting chips from birth and get it done with? Brave New World.

I am innocent. I have committed no crime. I would subject myself to a CRC without fear. But it is a violation, an invasion of my privacy. I respect governments that don't view you with suspicion; that assume your intentions are to be of benefit to their society. I don't think I'd hang around long in a place that's always sticking its nose into my personal affairs. That's how I feel about it. That's how we who love freedom feel.

I for one defend presumed innocence and argue that strict laws and severe penalties for sex offenders and human traffickers by these individual countries need to serve as deterrents, not mass screening. This is a wired world- there is no reason why a database of people with child abuse convictions could not be compiled by (Interpol) and made available to customs. What percent of foreign teachers do you imagine to be engaging in these crimes anyway? Amongst those, surely a significant percent have no convictions and would pass anyway.

At least some of us here are against the ever tightening restrictions, though there is little we can do about it. We see it as draconian- antagonistic to liberty. Authorities are in charge of doing all they can to stop pedophiles, drug traffickers, and economic exploitation (what are you wearing?). I just don't think CRC's and other similar measures are the way to go. Not at all.

[Cairnsman]

I don�t understand your reference to bloody tabloid.

I don�t understand the connection between child sex tourism in south-east Asia and reports of persons convicted of, or wanted for, child sex crimes in their own countries.

I don�t understand your reference to surveillance.

In one of your posts, you implied that it was beyond your comprehension as to why some countries require CRCs for foreign nationals working within their borders.

You can probably comprehend from the four reports (about 5 culprits) that I posted, that the culprits would not have been employed had they been required to provide CRCs.

With regards to �mass screening�, in my home country of Australia, every person who works with or in close proximity to children under 18, e.g. teachers, school cleaners, school bus drivers, etc must hold a current �Blue Card� in order to secure employment.

A �Blue Card� is basically certification that an individual is safe to work with children and can only be applied for after individuals obtain a national Police clearance.

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[steki47]

[Cairnsman]

It would seem that your train of thought is traveling south and my train of thought is traveling north. Our trains of thought are unlikely to ever meet so I�ll make this my last post in the matter.

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[bluetortilla]

[Cairnsman]

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[steki47]