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johnslat · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject:

Dear steve b,

That's more than a little ingenuous, considering that, in the context of your post, you were using that "belief" to bolster your argument.

" . . . . you will never know."

But I do.

Regards.
John

AGoodStory · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 738

steve b · Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 293 Location: China

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There are several other mental disorders which may involve similar symptoms to bipolar disorder. These include schizophrenia,[55] schizoaffective disorder, drug intoxication, brief drug-induced psychosis, schizophreniform disorder, ADHD[56], and borderline personality disorder. Both borderline personality and bipolar disorder can involve what are referred to as "mood swings".

johnslat · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:14 pm Post subject:

Dear steve b,

Please let me expand on my previous post. I may have left the impression that I know that you have never had an intensely traumatic experience.

That is not the only possibility - as one of my previous posts mentioned (I've edited it to apply to non-vets and to people who are skeptical of psychiatric trauma)

And the worst part about PTSD is that many/most: 1. don't even know they have it; 2. are in denial about having it; or 3. know they have it, but don't trust the psychiatric profession to do anything to help because they consider the practitioners to be "trick cyclists" who spout "psychobabble."

There's also the highly unlikely possibility that you're a sociopath /psychopath, but I discount that. A sociopath/psychopath would almost certainly have a better paying job than EFL Very Happy

Also, I think you were confusing "schizophrenia" with "manic-depressive" in this part of your post:

"(eg. bi-polar instead of schizophrenic)."

"Bipolar Disorder Overview

Bipolar disorder (BD) is a type of mood disorder. Bipolar disorder was called manic depression in the past, and that term is still used by some people. It is a psychiatric illness that causes major disruptions in lifestyle and health."

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/bipolar_disorder/article_em.htm

Sometimes a medical term changes - tuberculosis was once called "white plague" and "consumption."

Regards,
John

P.S. Your unlinked quote does not change the fact that bi-polar is NOT a new term for schizophrenia. It is a new term for "manic-depression."

steve b · Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 293 Location: China

I wasn't confusing manic depression, for simplicity I just never included that along with schizophrenia. And yes, I know terms change - in fact I thought I had said that - often it is because the old term is now deemed offensive.

However you have done a good job of derailing the main point of my psychopathic rant, which was that seeing as psychiatrists believe they can spot a personality disorder before it becomes apparent to all or is brought about by events, then just maybe they should use it to screen recruits to the military. After all, they devised these wonderful psychometric tests for prospective employers to use, didn't they?

I also did say that some people benefit from counselling. I have had much worse things happen to me in my life than being burgled - I never needed counselling for any of them, but then maybe I am in denial (another phrase I don't recollect being used until latter times) but if that's the case then I seem to rub along just fine anyway.

johnslat · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:36 pm Post subject:

Dear steve b,

" . . . if that's the case then I seem to rub along just fine anyway."

Good for you - all the best.

"I wasn't confusing manic depression, for simplicity I just never included that along with schizophrenia."

Hmm, sounds like denial of having been mistaken to me - but then, I'm not a trick cyclist. Very Happy

Regards,
John

steve b · Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 293 Location: China

Nice try.

Sashadroogie · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject:

Schizophrenia - we are experts on that in the Motherland. Strangely, it only ever afflicts prominent outspoken members of the art world. Possibly a local variant... It is best treated with extra courses in Marxist dialectic. Available from many military sanatoria...

johnslat · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject:

Dear steve b,

Actually, a hit, a palpable hit. But denial's very stubborn.

I'd say you're the one that's trying Very Happy

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Regards,
John

steve b · Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 293 Location: China

If you say so.

steve b · Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 293 Location: China

If you say so. I didn't know it was a fight.

johnslat · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject:

Dear steve b,

"If you say so. I didn't know it was a fight."

Well, that's good - so I can assume you haven't suffered any PTSD as a result of our verbal contention Very Happy

(Sorry my use of metaphor led you astray.)

Regards,
John

Dedicated · Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 972 Location: UK

We have seriously digressed from the original topic " Going Postal".

The point I was trying to make is that the slang expression "going postal" does not exist in the UK. It refers to US postal workers who SHOT and killed their managers....they went berserk.

Why? Because they had ready access to GUNS. Maybe the US should be looking at their gun laws then these incidents would probably not happen.

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-22/world/norway.explosion_1_youth-camp-norwegian-police-norwegian-man?_s=PM:WORLD

http://www.thejournal.ie/two-dead-ten-injured-in-liege-bomb-attack-303541-Dec2011/

I absolutely agree with you about lax gun laws, but these things don't only happen in the US. People of other nationalities also go berserk on occasion.