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China�s President Pushes Back Against Western Culture
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steki47



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: China�s President Pushes Back Against Western Culture Reply with quote

7969 wrote:
Canada has had "Canadian content" regulations in place for decades to protect Canadian culture/artists from being swamped by US culture/content.


My Canadian co-workers comment/complain about how their TV is mostly American programs. Canada has produced some quality programs, BTW.
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auchtermuchty



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For cyberkada's benefit, here's his local cable station in Xian trying to get more subscribers for foreign shows Laughing

http://www.sxbctv.com/video_con1.jsp?urltype=news.NewsContentUrl&wbnewsid=32539&wbtreeid=6934
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7969



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

steki47 wrote:
7969 wrote:
Canada has had "Canadian content" regulations in place for decades to protect Canadian culture/artists from being swamped by US culture/content.

My Canadian co-workers comment/complain about how their TV is mostly American programs. Canada has produced some quality programs, BTW.

There is a lot of US content in Canada today, but I've never heard anyone in Canada complain too much about it (unless it's garbage like FOX News), in fact it's often the opposite, too many complaints about boring Canadian content found on stations like the CBC (the station with the highest level of Canadian content). There's a growing movement to abolish public funding of the state broadcaster simply because (other than news and sports) it produces little that anyone wants to watch. The amount of Canadian content varies according to the type of media - TV, radio, magazines - and the individual broadcast licenses. It is (was?) as high as 60%. The Canadian content rules were more annoying before we had 200 TV channels, internet, only a handful of news magazines were being published, and in the days when a lot of Canadian cultural programming (CBC mostly) WAS crap. These rules have been modified to reflect the changing landscape (more privately-owned foreign media with less Canadian content), but Canadian content rules are still in effect.

What China appears to be doing is no different. Protect their domestic content/artists from being swamped by foreign (American) productions. Nothing wrong with that if your music, TV, and movies are still trying to gain a foothold with the masses. Or maybe it is all about infiltration by Twisted Evil enemy forces. Personally I say let the consumer decide what they want to watch and screw any form of content governance. People will get what they want one way or another, even here in China.
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Gtomas



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I interned as a reporter, my editor had this quote above her desk:
Quote:
"But, after all, it is the leaders of the
country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to
drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering
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Cairnsman



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For cyberkada's benefit, here's his local cable station in Xian trying to get more subscribers for foreign shows Laughing

In my small corner of paradise, the local cable network broadcasts CCTV第一剧场 (CCTV First Theatre?) which show British series (English soundtrack, Chinese subtitles) every night between 7:30pm and 9:00 pm, and CCTV风云剧场 (CCTV Storm Theatre?) which shows 3 back-to-back western movies (English soundtrack, Chinese subtitles) each night between 8:00 pm and 1:00 am.
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DosEquisX



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just China thumping its chest imo.
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urbanversion



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:00 am    Post subject: re: hubris? Reply with quote

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Does that mean only rich Chinese living in western compounds or 5 start hotels get to see Western programmes. No, not at all.


Are most even bothered or interested?

What I hear most from 20 and 30 something Chinese is how great China and everything chinese is, and how bad or inferior everything western is.

When I reply the west is a very big and diverse place, that seems to fall on deaf ears.

Cultural arrogance, downfall of any nation imho.
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TexasHighway



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modern American sitcoms bore me to tears but my university students love to talk about Big Bang Theory and other TV shows that I have no interest in. What I really find repugnant are all the American Idol type copycat talent shows here. Also, I often hear horrible foreign rap music played over the school's loudspeakers. I have nothing against cultural sharing but it seems that China receives the absolute worst of our culture. It gives them a very distorted view of life in the West.
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dakelei



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: re: hubris? Reply with quote

[quote="urbanversion"]
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What I hear most from 20 and 30 something Chinese is how great China and everything chinese is, and how bad or inferior everything western is.



Not sure with whom you're speaking but I generally hear mostly the opposite. My uni students do strongly prefer Chinese pop music but mostly because they understand the lyrics. Aside from that they think most Chinese "culture" isn't great at all, particularly TV and movies.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Hu would help by not requiring his minions to hack into every Western government and commercial computer system they can breach. The contamination that these poor souls are exposed to must have a negative effect on them.
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echidna_of_doom



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If reality tv and anything featuring time travel are deemed too edgy for the censors, I doubt contemporary Chinese culture will be exportable to anyone outside of overseas Chinese communities. Pity, really.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why China is turning its back to the future is ridiculous. The powers that be raise their noses at anything science-fiction. For a country with such an enormous amount of talented young people, not allowing artists to produce futuristic movies is pathetically petty.

Every second channel on TV is history, documentaries or news/talk shows.

YAWN

No wonder young people are seeking out foreign movies and foreign entertainment. The domestically-made stuff is boring as hell.
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veronica2



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with this type of programming? I quite enjoy it. Better than a lot of the stuff back home.
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Opiate



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veronica2 wrote:
Better than a lot of the stuff back home.


Was your previous home a cave in Afghanistan perhaps?

Also, you are a recent arrival in China. Is your Chinese good enough to keep up with normal TV here?
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm starting a thread on the off topic page about the daft things Chinese students have said about the West.
Check it out and contribute if you can.
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