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..anyone out there enjoying themselves?
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sistercream



Joined: 18 Dec 2010
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Location: Pearl River Delta

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the OP - here's another happy camper. Mind you, I regard myself as a teacher first and a TEFLer second - I started in an area nothing to do with teaching, but discovered I enjoyed teaching my subject more than practising it, then have expanded the subjects & age groups I've been teaching more & more over the last few decades. Have tried a few other kinds of jobs occasionally, but been bored to tears within weeks every time.

As far as TEFLing goes, my experience has all been in the greater China area (PRC, Hong Kong, Macau & Taiwan), and has ranged from soul-destroying to totally brilliant jobs. Factors that influence most what I think of a particular gig are what the boss is like, what my colleagues are like, whether the students want to be there or not and (way down the bottom of the list) what teaching materials are (not) provided and the pay.

I'm not rich, but can live without penny-pinching or panicking about retirement funding.
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tomwaits



Joined: 27 Nov 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A big thanks to everyone who took the trouble to reply. I particularly liked those responses that detailed why they were enjoying themselves. These will help to keep me going through my CELTA and hopefully beyond!
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Thanks for the detailed post on earnings in the region...we've all come to expect such helpful posts from you. But if you'll let me point out, my question was about the availability of professional development while abroad. What kind of opportunities do schools in your region provide to earn a master's or other qualification?

SahanRiddhi sees little connection between teaching English as EFL and teaching English as a subject. Any difference in Asia?


Professional development varies widely both in terms of what is available and what the employer is willing to provide.

IN Korea, beyond the initial orientation, there is no on-going pro-D in the public school sector and not even so much as the orientation in the private sector.

In Taiwan, if you are in a public school there is some pro-D (workshops) but nothing in terms of upgrading from the employer. You always have the option to upgrade on your own.

There was NO upgrading or pro-D in (mainland) China. To the best of my knowledge there still isn't any for the foreign teachers.

In Thailand it is a mixed bag and there is a wide range.

In language academies there is no pro-D and they won't pay any better for higher qualifications BUT if your qualifications make you better in the classroom (high attendance or more demand for you) then you get paid more.
I think you will find that is typical for most language academies anywhere in Asia.

In OUR schools (there are 10 k-12 schools that are affiliated) we have regular workshops (2*20-hour workshops per term). We also pay more for those with higher qualifications, will pay for attendance at other professional forums, have provided TESOL courses for our staff but have never been asked about upgrading to masters or beyond. We now, no longer, hire people without professional teacher qualifications / (degree, post grad diploma, Masters or home country certification).

I think most other schools in Thailand (most of SE Asia) are somewhere in between.

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VietCanada



Joined: 30 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started out 12 years ago just past 40.

I love it. There was a time when people would yearn to retire to a Caribbean island. Well why wait for official retirement?

I feel I am different from most posters here. I could care less about PD or positions that require B.Ed.'s and other qualifications. I have a B.A. in math and it has served me well. I've rarely made less than $2000 USD a month. I respect those who have worked so hard to further their careers but I am content with my place in the scheme of things. I show up, teach and go home. The kids have fun and learn. The parents and the school love that. If the school wants more than that they need to ante up.

I started in Korea where a kind face was the pre-eminent qualification to go along with the bachelors degree. I had fun, made money, made friends and all the while I thoroughly enjoyed and thrived in the challenges. IMHO that is the most important aspect of this job. One must enjoy the twin challenges of living in a foreign country and teaching. I've met too many people who either hate their job or hate the country they live in. To those people I say go home while you can salvage a career.

Now I am in Vietnam. In between I went home and assured myself that I am very much employable in my first career. It actually pays more than this gig which should accentuate just how much I enjoy this second career. My 'retirement to the islands'.

To sum up- I have a skill I can utilize for employment back home if the need be and I enjoy the twin challenges of this second career.

Edit: I feel I must add that I've spent countless hours on the internet learning about what I am teaching and how to teach it. Classroom management is very important. The three L 's of teaching- learning, learning, learning. I've taken advantage of every opportunity to learn. Observing, being observed, picking people's brains when they're amenable to it. Anything my school du jour offers. I take pride in my work. I suppose I do PD of some sort after all. Very Happy
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