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Opiate · Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 630 Location: Qingdao

Wink all you want buttercup, you still fail.

Lobster · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:46 pm Post subject:

I have no idea what he's on about, but it sounds interesting.

RED

igorG · Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Posts: 1473 Location: asia

Hey dudes,

Tell us about your experiences with students for abroad studies and how you pass them all.

Amen

colonel · Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 89 Location: Nanyang and Cha-Am

Lobster · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject:

I don't give the grades for that program Igor. The exams are prepared in Canada, and then sent to Canada to be marked after they're completed. The marks are recorded there. So technically, I don't pass or fail them and nobody in China does anything but invigilate the exams. Got it? What does your program do?

RED

igorG · Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Posts: 1473 Location: asia

It's nice to only proctor the exams and have them sent to unbias lands. Got it. Don't worry Smile

In my program, it's not that simple although my students get an appropriate feedback after every assessment which is beneficial to them.

Gtomas · Joined: 03 Jun 2010 Posts: 100

Anyone have any tips or tricks to force students to get the grades we assign?

Opiate · Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 630 Location: Qingdao

rogerwilco · Joined: 10 Jun 2010 Posts: 1549

choudoufu · Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC

Gtomas · Joined: 03 Jun 2010 Posts: 100

I meant a tactful way to tell Chinese staff that we stand by the grades we give. Perhaps even a tactful way to refuse to grade in the future if we know that they will just be changed.

IE.

"You hired me to be a Western teacher, so I am grading in Western style. Do you think changing the grades is good or helps the student? If the parents have an issue I would be happy to speak with them personally and explain myself and my grades."

Story: The one teacher who didn't change my grades, we passed out oral test grades in an advanced young class. These children study hardcore (call the Chinese teachers at 8pm while reviewing homework to make sure they are saying 'vending machine' correctly).

I've never seen such cold stares from eight-year-olds before. No one got below a 90 (and they earned that), yet they were NOT happy. Told me their grades went down from last time.

Babala · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Henan

I have a different situation as I teach corporate but there are still grades that go to the company's HR. In many cases, the students have to pay upfront for the course and if they pass then the company will pay for the course but if they fail, then they don't receive anything. I think it's a good way as it really makes the students put the effort in.

igorG · Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Posts: 1473 Location: asia

Babala · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Henan

igorG, I thought your last post was rude. You automatically make the assumption that I simply care nothing about my students and their progress and that snide little comment about the "fine business courses" was not necessary. I have never fabricated any reports to any HR nor have I ever passed a student who didn't deserve it. The whole point to my post was to say that in my case, the grades do matter.