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What are my prospects in Turkey, where should I look. . .

 
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JBrown



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:43 am    Post subject: What are my prospects in Turkey, where should I look. . . Reply with quote
Okay, here is my situation. I have BA and MA in English. I do not have any actual "experience," but I did tutor writing (mostly ESL students) and substitute college classes while working as the graduate teaching assistant for my university.

1) What would my job prospects be in Turkey without 1: teaching certificate 2: TEFL, CELTA, DELTA?

2) Where should I look to submit my CV? I have already submitted it to ads on Dave's, but I am looking for other suggestions.

3) What kind of pay can I expect? I know this will vary widely, but I am just looking for a general outlook on salaries.

Maybe some other information on cost of living (food, transportation [hopefully will live by work], and apartment). Thank you for all your help ahead of time. Also, any other opinions on how people felt about living and working in Turkey would be appreciated!
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gator07



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Unfortunately, an English degree can be a tough sell in the EFL world, a CELTA or similar certificate would be a great supplement to that. However, it's not impossible to find employment in Turkey that fits your background. Some universities hire applicants with little background in the field as they are interested in training you. Bilkent/BUSEL is one of those schools and I know you can find quite a few threads about them. They offer a free CELTA for new teachers. You can also look into private high schools who might want to hire you as an EFL teacher or a language arts instructor. Pay will vary depending on the school, your role, location, benefits, etc. I'd guess as an entry level teacher, somewhere between 1000-1700 USD. Benefits vary greatly. I'd definitely look at a package as a whole since some cities (Istanbul especially) are quite expensive!

As far as getting your resume out there, I'd just keep my eye out for job vacancies on Dave's or TEFL.com. Contacting HR departments at individual schools and sending them your resume directly would also be helpful.

Turkey is a great country. Lots to do, great travel opportunities, and a lot of entertainment (in bigger cities). The students at private institutions can lack motivation and classroom management can be a struggle... but really, that's not country-specific.

Good luck!
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Qaaolchoura



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Location: 21 miles from the Syrian border
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gator, are you sure that that's the way things currently are?

Am I just really bad at job-hunting?

I do have a TESOL cert, and experience, and I'm on the ground here. I only got one job offer like the one you described, back in Septemeber at 2250 lira/month (pay + housing). I didn't take that one because I wanted to not teach children at all, but I should have taken it, since I haven't had anything like it before or since.

Regards,
~Q
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lucia79



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
@JBrown- You can submit your CV to universities in Izmir. Izmir is a nice city. Travelling around is easy and there's lots to see and do. Cost of living is cheaper as well.
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Qaaolchoura



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
lucia79 wrote:
@JBrown- You can submit your CV to universities in Izmir. Izmir is a nice city. Travelling around is easy and there's lots to see and do. Cost of living is cheaper as well.

No, no, no!
People told me this before coming to Izmir all the time, and they have no idea what they're talking about.

Though cost of living is better than Istanbul, so is pay. And hours. If you can scrape together 18/week over 2-3 jobs, you'll be incredibly lucky. Every school tells me the same thing: the economy is in the dumps, Turks are having a hard time finding jobs, and they can't afford English classes.

And if unis are hiring here, it's news to me. There's one that several people have told me was hiring, but they're not anymore, if they ever were. The rest I've been told are not hiring.

The worst part is Lucia's absolutely right about almost everything else. It's one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been to, the people are much friendlier than in Istanbul, but much less religious than much of the country, and quite easy to get around.

I really should go back to Istanbul, where I had some decent job offers, but I can't bring myself to do so, and so here I sit, lucky when I get part-time work, and bleeding money. Don't come here, or you too may be trapped in the land of the lotus-eaters.

~Q

Edit: cost of living is better than Istanbul, not worse. I think I meant to say "cost of living is worse in Istanbul," but that's hardly clearer.

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lucia79



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Qaaolchoura wrote:
No, no, no!
People told me this before coming to Izmir all the time, and they have no idea what they're talking about.


I'm sorry you're having difficulty finding a good-paying job. But, if you're fortunate to have a decent job then life is quite nice in Izmir (I know what I'm talking about Wink ).

Be positive (even though it can be hard at times) and keep job searching. You''ll find something.
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