Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Where are you?
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  

Where are you working now?
Africa
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
China
17%
 17%  [ 8 ]
North America
21%
 21%  [ 10 ]
Oceania
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
South/Central America
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
Far East
8%
 8%  [ 4 ]
Southeast Asia
15%
 15%  [ 7 ]
The Middle East
10%
 10%  [ 5 ]
Europe
17%
 17%  [ 8 ]
Total Votes : 46

Author Message
Cole Katz



Joined: 15 Jan 2012
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave's limited the number of choices I could have in the poll so I had to make some cuts. Russia was one of them, sorry, a careless choice.

I would have thought Mexico would count as Central (Latin) America, but I can see the geographical argument that it is North America, but then again all of Central America is geographically North America, isn't it?

I don't know that I agree that Mexico is the best place, but I do think the Mexican people are the finest human beings I have ever met. Really; I mean that.

And as for how many continents there are. It's the two Americas, Africa, Australia, Antarctica (no ESL work there to speak of) and mighty Eurasia.

To my way of thinking, the white Europeans who are responsible for the Age of Discovery couldn't deal with the fact that their great race didn't have its own continent, while Aborigines, Africans and native 'Americans' did. So they arbitrarily cut Eurasia off at the Urals and the Dardanelles to make The Great White Continent. It's all Eurasia and nothing but between Great Britain and Japan, and I'd rather not hear any arguments, thank you. Cool
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Isla Guapa



Joined: 19 Apr 2010
Posts: 1520
Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest changing the South/Central America category to Latin America.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 11061
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cole Katz wrote:


To my way of thinking, the white Europeans who are responsible for the Age of Discovery couldn't deal with the fact that their great race didn't have its own continent, while Aborigines, Africans and native 'Americans' did. So they arbitrarily cut Eurasia off at the Urals and the Dardanelles to make The Great White Continent. It's all Eurasia and nothing but between Great Britain and Japan, and I'd rather not hear any arguments, thank you. Cool


: ) Sorry but I just can't help myself from arguing. It's a characteristic of dialectics and very strong anti-flu medicine.

Apologies, Cole Katz, but the idea the above quote, though attempting to be in line with progressive thinking, is flawed. It ignores historical fact. The concept of Europe and even the name comes from ancient Greek culture. From their vantage point, the world was divided in to 'Asia', on one side of the Dardanelles and the Bosphorus, and 'Europe' on the other. 'Libya' was over the Med far to the south. This division was seen as imperfect even to contemporaries, but it stuck. So, it isn't quite fair to blame the nomenclature on the colonising imperialists of later centuries.

What could be under discussion are the terms Near East, Middle East, and Far East, as these clearly identify the world in a Eurocentric manner, and are quite recent terms, generally accepted to have started in the British India Office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
naturegirl321



Joined: 04 May 2003
Posts: 9041
Location: home sweet home

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SE Asia but no NE Asia? I guess it's the Far East. BUt how come China is the only country on the list? Confused I mean, it's the Far East too, right?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 11061
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from the huge swathes of Central Asia inherited from the Mongols..
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Teacher in Rome



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Posts: 1286

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Interestingly, the ignorance about Mexico's location is widespread outside Mexico. Almost all the UK travel operators I've had contact with have Mexico on the Central America tab on their websites.


I'm as ignorant then! I thought North America was just the USA and Canada...

But on another note, what do citizens of the USA and Canada think about Mexico - is it part of North America? Seems to me it's just as much a political choice as a geographical one.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
Posts: 1951
Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teacher in Rome wrote:
I'm as ignorant then! I thought North America was just the USA and Canada...

But on another note, what do citizens of the USA and Canada think about Mexico - is it part of North America? Seems to me it's just as much a political choice as a geographical one.


NAFTA includes Mexico.

.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 11061
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is true.

And the USA includes Hawaii. Kazakhstan plays in UEFA and Israel participates in the Eurovision. Not too much geographical consistency there.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 13859
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Teacher in Rome,

"But on another note, what do citizens of the USA and Canada think about Mexico - is it part of North America? Seems to me it's just as much a political choice as a geographical one."

Can't speak for the citizens of Canada (who, it's hoped, are more informed), but depending for accuracy upon what many/most citizens of the US know about geography is not such a good idea.

I live in the state of New Mexico. Many of my fellow citizens think they need a passport to visit.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12512979

http://www.nmmagazine.com/50missing.php

Regards,
John
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 11061
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy

Like for New England?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 13859
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sasha,

"Which is bigger: California or Los Angeles? Most fourth graders aren't sure."

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2011/0719/Which-is-bigger-California-or-Los-Angeles-Most-fourth-graders-aren-t-sure

Ignorance abounds.

Regards,
John
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 11061
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abounds everywhere. Except in Russia. Soviet academies simply would not tolerate such gaps in knowledge. Nothing like a spell in an extracurricular camp to sort of willful educational sabotage. I don't mean decadent Summer Camps either.

BTW, what age are fourth-graders?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Isla Guapa



Joined: 19 Apr 2010
Posts: 1520
Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Abounds everywhere. Except in Russia. Soviet academies simply would not tolerate such gaps in knowledge. Nothing like a spell in an extracurricular camp to sort of willful educational sabotage. I don't mean decadent Summer Camps either.

BTW, what age are fourth-graders?


Nine or ten years old.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
BadBeagleBad



Joined: 23 Aug 2010
Posts: 1186
Location: 24.18105,-103.25185

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Phil_K"]

Also, at the end of Robbie Williams' concert in the Foro Sol, he announced, "I hope to be back in South America soon!"... and I'm thinking, "Well, we won't see you then, will we!"[/quote

Sadly, I think I can top that one. Once, when I was living in Guatemala, on a visit to the US, upon mentioning that I lived in Guatemala, I was asked what part of Mexico that was in.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MotherF



Joined: 07 Jun 2010
Posts: 1450
Location: 17�48'N 97�46'W

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we are one upping--when travelling in Mexico, I was talking to a middle aged American couple, from someone on the east coast (New Jersey maybe?). I said I was from Iowa--they asked what part of CANADA that was in! I guess they thought I meant Ottawa?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China