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[wompler]

My fianc� is Australian, so I�m not sure how that would affect getting married in the States. I found some info online about a special fianc� visa for the U.S., but since he doesn�t normally need a visa to enter the U.S. as an Australian, does he have to have this visa if he wants to enter the U.S. for the purpose of getting married?

Not sure if anyone here knows about this, but I thought I�d ask.

[veiledsentiments]

Have you talked to either of your embassies about getting married? somewhere? your home... his home... where you are...

goodness this is getting complicated...

[QatarChic]

Could you not get married elsewhere? I just remembered a colleague of mine (American) married his Australian wife in Gibraltar.....just a thought...

[Bindair Dundat]

[Albulbul]

[dmb]

Biffinbridge, a poster here, got married in Qatar. (to a Pole)

[Bindair Dundat]

[web fishing]

Like VS, I think the first step is to talk to either of your embassies about getting married. They should be able to guide you in the right direction. Good Luck!!!

I'm re-reading this stuff on marriage, it sounds complicated, giving me a headache.

MARRIAGE OF UNITED STATES CITIZENS ABROAD http://travel.state.gov/family/family_issues/marriage/marriage_589.html

Who May Perform Marriages Abroad

American diplomatic and consular officers are NOT permitted to perform marriages (Title 22, Code of Federal Regulations 52.1). Marriages abroad are almost always performed by local (foreign) civil or religious officials.

As a rule, marriages are not performed on the premises of an American embassy or consulate. The validity of marriages abroad is not dependent upon the presence of an American diplomatic or consular officer, but upon adherence to the laws of the country where the marriage is performed. Consular officers may authenticate foreign marriage documents. The fee for authentication of a document is $32.00.

Validity of Marriages Abroad

In general, marriages which are legally performed and valid abroad are also legally valid in the United States. Inquiries regarding the validity of a marriage abroad should be directed to the attorney general of the state in the United States where the parties to the marriage live.

Foreign Laws and Procedures

The embassy or tourist information bureau of the country in which the marriage is to be performed is the best source of information about marriage in that country. Some general information on marriage in a limited number of countries can be obtained from Overseas Citizens Services, Room 4811, Department of State, Washington, DC 20520. In addition, American embassies and consulates abroad frequently have information about marriage in the country in which they are located.

Residence Requirements

Marriages abroad are subject to the residency requirements of the country in which the marriage is to be performed. There is almost always a lengthy waiting period.

Documentation and Authentication

Most countries require that a valid U.S. passport be presented. In addition, birth certificates, divorce decrees, and death certificates are frequently required. Some countries require that the documents presented to the marriage registrar first be authenticated in the United States by a consular official of that country. This process can be time consuming and expensive.

Parental Consent

The age of majority for marriage varies from one country to another. Persons under the age of 18 must, as a general rule, present a written statement of consent executed by their parents before a notary public. Some countries require the parental consent statement to be authenticated by a consular official of that foreign country in the United States.

Affidavit of Eligibility to Marry

All civil law countries require proof of legal capacity to enter into a marriage contract in the form of certification by competent authority that no impediment exists to the marriage. No such document exists in the United States. Unless the foreign authorities will allow such a statement to be executed before one of their consular officials in the United States, it will be necessary for the parties to a prospective marriage abroad to execute an affidavit at the American embassy or consulate in the country in which the marriage will occur stating that they are free to marry. This is called an affidavit of eligibility to marry and the fee for the American consular officer''s certification of the affidavit is $55.00, subject to change. Some countries also require witnesses who will execute affidavits to the effect that the parties are free to marry.

Additional Requirements

Many countries, like the United States, require blood tests.

Some countries require that documents presented to the marriage registrar be translated into the native language of that country.

Loss of U.S. Nationality

In some countries, marriage to a national of that country will automatically make the spouse either a citizen of that country or eligible to become naturalized in that country expeditiously. The automatic acquisition of a second nationality will not affect U.S. citizenship. However, naturalization in a foreign country on one''s own application or the application of a duly authorized agent may cause the loss of American citizenship. Persons planning to apply for a foreign nationality should contact an American embassy or consulate for further information.

[wompler]

Thanks for all the help. If you�re interested in how it all worked out, my fianc�s employer agreed to hire me as well, at least for the first three months. So they are giving me the visa/flight/accommodation package as part of the job (plus living expenses). Though I should note that our employer is an Australian company which has been outsourced a contract by a Doha company.

So we�re going to hold off on the wedding for now; hopefully when we do it it�ll be the way we want it and not in some civil registry office.

See you in Doha!

[veiledsentiments]

Great!! It helps to have a 'western' employer.

But, if you plan to share the same flat, it is best to tell everyone that you are already married. It is a rather 'Victorian' culture, and it might help to avoid any problems with neighbors. Of course, with fellow Westerners, it won't matter.

VS