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[Oneota]

Emerald wrote:

"They should be aware that if US people say "no problem" to a project, it has a different meaning."

What are the two meanings?

[clovis]

I think this might be the only posting addressing the question 'what should Germans not do in the UK', as all the previous ones seem to deal with what they shouldn't do in the USA.

I'd say that very view things offend us 'Brits'. Some 'Brits' are of course ridiculously P.C, hence a 'Manhole' needs to be called an 'Inspection chamber', because of course it is not a hole just for men, but for women also.

Watch 'Fawlty Towers' for a guide........'don't mention the war!!!!!'

I am itching to debate with Jzer about his views, but this is the the right thread. However, what I will say is this. The World (yes, including us Europeans) was appalled at the Terrorist attacks on the World Trade Centre and the consequential loss of Innocent lifes. We all mourned for your nation. Unfortunately, institutions like Guantanomo Bay and the foreign polocy of the Bush Administration in general has changed that feeling of mourning to one of alarm and suspicion. Jzer, perhaps we Europeans are wrong, ignorant even, but I'm glad to say that Guantanomo Bay would not happen in Europe, we don't have capital punishment and absolutely crazy gun laws.

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[Henry_Cowell]

[clovis]

Yes Jzer, I'm pretty sure. We have a European court of human rights, and to hold people for months without charge is definitely a no no.

Holier than thou' eh Henry Cowell? The same report also shows that Jack Straw asking questions about the 'clandestine' flights. If our security services were indeed involved, it was without public knowledge.

There have been recent cases of UK security forces acting illegally. These cases have been put before the European court of human rights.

You obviously don't feel there is much difference between the USA and Europe (which the UK is part of!!!). I feel there is a huge Gulf between us on a range of issues. I won't be able to persuade you there is, likewise, you won't be able to persuade me there isn't.

I'm just popping down the road now to buy myself a couple of handguns. It's my constitutional right you see.....oops.......sorry, i can't........damn it!!! Wrong country. Perhaps I need to move over the pond.

[JZer]

[Henry_Cowell]

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[clovis]

Henry_Cowell, so my original statement was obnoxious and ignorant. What was obnoxious precisely, the fact that I said Guantanomo Bay would not happen in the UK?

However, as you accuse me of being 'holier than thou, obnoxious and ignorant' I will use my limited intellect to deduce that you and I would most certainly not agree on anything. I mean, how could you possibly agree with anyone who possesesd all 3 of those not particularly nice traits?

So, I will carry on believing that the E.U has a vastly different set of values compared to that of the USA, whilst you can carry on believing that they do. Of course, you can disregard the European Court of Human Rights, the general European rejection of capital punishment as mere trifles.

The US is a great place to live. It is very rich, the richest country on earth. Funny how it's minimum wage is comparable with that of the UK, except of course the UK's is in � sterling whilst the USA's is in $US. Hang on, that means the UK minimum wage is in reality nearly twice that of the USA.

But, here I am wasting time justifying my belief that there are BIG differences between the European 'model' and the US model. I think there is, you don't. End of discussion.

Oh yes Henry_Cowell, I'd just like to finally say that I'm not running away from a debate. However, I quite naturally don't like being called obnoxious, ignorant and holier than thou'. Go away and insult someone else.

JZer, I apologise if you feel I have been using stereotypes. It is easy to succumb to doing so. However, I stick by what I believe. The E.U's Court of Human Rights, it's rejection of capital punishment show clear differences in views between it and that of the USA. Another major difference is the E.U rejection of anything approaching the USA's 2nd amendment.

The Bush administration has fought to keep this amendment. The American people voted for Bush, so many Europeans find this quite disturbing. Please don't patronise us by saying we shouldn't be alarmed, because we are. Of course not ALL Americans voted for Bush, but the MAJORITY did!!!!

[Henry_Cowell]

"clovis"--

If you're capable of using the Search function, take a look at my previous (and lengthy) posts about Guantanamo and the Geneva Convention during the summer of 2006.

And, yes, I did prove that your original statement was wrong. You're welcome!!

[JZer]

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