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JZer
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| The Bush administration has fought to keep this amendment. The American people voted for Bush, so many Europeans find this quite disturbing. Please don't patronise us by saying we shouldn't be alarmed, because we are. Of course not ALL Americans voted for Bush, but the MAJORITY did!!!! |
Though Europe is not devoid of guns. I know that Switzerland is not in the EU but it is in Europe and they allows guns. I think you are not very wise to include all of Europe in the same breath. If you want to talk about UK then do so but buy including all of Europe you are opening up a can of worms.
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| Recreational shooting is widespread in Switzerland. Practice with weapons is a popular recreation, and is encouraged by the government, particularly for the members of the militia.[6] Swiss firearms-related rights are supported by the organization ProTell. |
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clovis
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: |
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JZer, I am talking about the E.U and Switzerland is not part of the E.U.
Poland is NOW part of the E.U, so has to adhere to some basic E.U laws and principles. They include NO capital punishment and very strict gun laws. A clear divide, in my view anyway, between the E.U and the USA.
Where I live in the UK there are now lots of Poles, infact, not just where I live, but all over the UK. They were more than glad to come here, and Poland was more than glad to join the E.U.
There are also clear differences on the 'Palestinian' issue. I think it is reasonable to conclude that Israel would have been given 'the nod' by the US to launch the attack on Lebanon last summer. The E.U, in my opinion, rightly condemned the attack. Israel can't pick it's own nose without consent from the US. Why do I say that, well, simple really, the US gives over $2 BILLION in defence aid and $0.84 BILLION un economic aid. Not bad, considering Israel has about only 6 million people and has the 16th largest per capita income in the world. I think Israel has a jolly good reason to remain sweet with the US.
Henry_Cowell, you can now also accuse me of being a homophobe, because the last 'guy' who gave me a wink ended up in hospital you faggot  |
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JZer
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Location: Pittsburgh
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| JZer, I am talking about the E.U and Switzerland is not part of the E.U. |
Everyone is aware of that. The problem is that sometimes you use the UK, sometimes Europe, and sometimes the EU. It is hard to stick with what you are comparing because you are always changing it.
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| I am itching to debate with Jzer about his views, but this is the the right thread. However, what I will say is this. The World (yes, including us Europeans) was appalled at the Terrorist attacks on the World Trade Centre and the consequential loss of Innocent lifes. |
You are mentioning Europeans here and not the EU.
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You obviously don't feel there is much difference between the USA and Europe (which the UK is part of!!!). |
I see Europe being mentioned and not the EU. |
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Henry_Cowell
Joined: 27 May 2005
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Location: Berkeley
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Henry_Cowell, you can now also accuse me of being a homophobe, because the last 'guy' who gave me a wink ended up in hospital you *beep* |
Yes, you Europeans are definitely more civilised and less violent than Americans. |
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clovis
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Ok Jzer, just to clarify, I mean the E.U, which pretty much now covers all of Europe. The UK is part of the E.U.
Henry_Cowell, sarcasm does become you ol' bean. Just for your information, if I had really put someone in hospital for winking at me I would have ended up inside.
You really are a clot. |
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Henry_Cowell
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| You really are a clot. |
On the contrary, my friend. You are the one whose name starts with C + L + O ...
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Deicide
Joined: 29 Jul 2006
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Location: Caput Imperii Americani
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| It's all about the chavs, don't you get it? |
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| clovis wrote: |
| You really are a clot. |
On the contrary, my friend. You are the one whose name starts with C + L + O ...
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well, call it a reincarnation of our old fart Henry
by the way, i loved your on line lesson that you gave to someone on a Chinese forum ... too bad it was doomed after your cheese came out
coming back to the topic, i'd say that germans should not spend their money in america...there're so many lovelier places to go to and spend one's hard earned cash or hard earned trust of banks
peace to herny's air mile points
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cheers and beers to reincarnations  |
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Henry_Cowell
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| And cheers to the eminently non-English gibson! |
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clovis
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Henry_Cowell, you insist on wanting to appear all 'pally' like. Winking at me and calling me 'my friend'. Get a grip man, I am most certainly no friend of yours.
I've just been reading a news item about the US force feeding hunger strikers in Guantanomo Bay. These people have been locked up now for 5 Years without trial. Surely, as they pose a threat to US security, I would have thought their deaths would have been desirable.
I have a sneaking suspicion it has more to do with seeking 'just retribution', I think that is ol' Dubya's term for it. I call simple revenge.
Anyhow Henry_Cowell, must dash off now a thump some chocolate stabbers such as yourself, winking at me indeed. I'm soon going to a country were they hang people for are such un-natural habits. Good day to you. |
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clovis
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| * I call it simple revenge |
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clovis
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| damn proofreading........* AND thump |
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Deicide
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Damn chavs.... |
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Henry_Cowell
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| CLOvis, you'll benefit from reading my previous posts on Guantanamo Bay and secret tribunals. You really will. |
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Deicide
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Henry_Cowell wrote: |
| CLOvis, you'll benefit from reading my previous posts on Guantanamo Bay and secret tribunals. You really will. |
chavs 'r us |
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