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Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:46 pm    Post subject: She's gone! Reply with quote

Maggie passes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22067155
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R.I.P. Lady Thatcher.

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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A woman is like a tea bag -- you can't tell how strong she is until you put her in hot water. ~ Eleanor Roosevelt, former US First Lady (1884 - 1962)
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I love argument. I love debate. I don't expect anyone just to sit there and agree with me - that's not their job,"

They could have been my own words, but were in fact those of the late, great Margaret Thatcher. She didn't mind that she divided opinion, that is the nature of democracy. She did believe strongly in her own opinions - a conviction politician, a rarity these days - and was never afraid to express them against the tide of popular, and populist, opinion. I happen to be one of her greatest fans, but I sincerely hope that others can see her greatness, even if their political opinions differ. I was lucky enough to enter adulthood at the start of her first term in office and enjoy the fruits of her reforms as I started working. I saw a politician who entered office with a plan, worked that plan and left office leaving the country in an infinitely healthier state than when she started, another rarity. A country riddled with inefficient nationalized industries, strikes and general discontent became a place where hard work and enterprise were encouraged, supported and rewarded.

RIP Baroness Thatcher, you will be missed. You represented a world that supported individualism - my kind of world - and one where unswerving support and defence of your country was something to be admired.
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johnslat



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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even the Iron Lady must, as we all do, go down to rust.

Rest in Peace.

Regards,
John
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artemisia



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a good thing too. Goodbye and good riddance.

I say that because of the effect of some of the policies endorsed by the Tories of the time - and she headed that government. I don't mourn her passing.


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it'snotmyfault



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at primary school when Thatcher stopped the free school milk, and my primary school was very strict about it.

I can remember half the class getting a small bottle of milk at break time and the older kids (including me) just getting water, and not really understanding why but feeling a sense of injustice. The way seven year olds do.

RIP milk snatcher Thatcher Smile
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Beeb's view of Russians' view of Maggie:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22072291
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HLJHLJ



Joined: 06 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The woman who fought sanctions against South Africa, who condemned Mandela but backed Pol Pol and Pinochet. She drew her battle lines according to wealth and privilege, her policies didn't reward hard work, they rewarded wealth. Let the rich get richer, and they did.

I don't think the damage she did will ever be repaired, I'm not even sure that it can be repaired. 'Every man for himself' is now indelibly etched on the British psyche. As long as there is a profit to be made you can screw anyone and anything and it's all good. The weakest and most vulnerable are the easiest pickings so of course you should start there.

Yes those old inefficient nationalised services have been transformed into efficient money making machines, they now bank billions in profit. Meanwhile millions of households live in fuel poverty, and hundreds of thousands more join them every year. Half of them pensioners, almost all of them vulnerable. The profits get siphoned off into the off-shore accounts of those who already have more money than they can possibly spend, and tens of thousands of pensioners die from the cold each winter.

That there are so many Brits who are proud to proclaim that this is 'their kind of world' saddens me beyond words. I'm under no illusion, I know the majority do truly believe it. But it's not my kind of world at all, the horror of it makes me cringe with shame and disgust.

So although I'm not celebrating her death, I'm glad she's gone. It's like when you catch some unpleasant and slightly venomous insect in your house, a mukade or a scorpion perhaps. I don't wish it dead, but if it dies in the process of being caught and put outside, I don't really care. Either way, there is a definite feeling that things are better once it's gone.
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kev7161



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a related note, Annette Funicello also died on the same day. M-I-C . . . See you real soon!
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jaffa



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloody awful member of the human race. Trouble is she spawned even more merchants of greed for future generations.
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Xie Lin



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