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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Location: Saigon, Vietnam
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:19 am Post subject: The Direct Method - Behaviorism? |
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Anyone here have experience using the Direct Method? If so, how does it relate to behavioristic views of learning? A co-worker was just telling me how that using Side x Side is based on behaviorism, so he refuses to use it. This lead to some discussion as to whether the Direct Method was appropriate or now in a communicative classroom. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure the two (the DM and behaviourism) are logically related - it would be possible for example to use SBS in Grammar-Translation methodology, and if the DM were behaviourism then pretty much the whole of the Communicative Approach would be behaviouristic. (The DM is very much standard in CLT/ELT nowadays, and has been in vogue in western ELT generally for decades if not centuries now (behaviourism in comparison was only really in vogue for the couple of decades following WWII)).
What SBS is is controlled practice (simple contexts for grammar-based short exchanges, especially in the earlier SBS books), which is sometimes a necessary and good thing. Whether you or your colleague view that as too behaviouristic is of course up to you, but using English as the means of instruction is certainly not behaviourism ("even if" we are hoping to thereby change the students' spoken default language). |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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There is a logical connection. The Direct Method paved the way for Audio-Lingualism by removing reliance on L1. The latter methodology is firmly based on Behaviorist theory. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Sahsa wrote: |
There is a logical connection. The Direct Method paved the way for Audio-Lingualism by removing reliance on L1. The latter methodology is firmly based on Behaviorist theory. |
Well, "yes" ('behaviourism in comparison was only really in vogue for the couple of decades following WWII'), but given the decline of audiolingualism there is now no longer that connection (though one could argue that it is still an influence, even in CLT). If the direct methodology had been developed and promulgated more fully in civilian circles rather than/before military ones, it doubtless would've been a lot less behaviourally-inclined. That is, the connection is more historical-chance than necessarily logical~contemporary. (Ah, the benefit of hindsight and all that). Anyway, I perhaps should've added 'nowadays' after the 'logically related' in the first sentence of my previous post to help clarify things.
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fluffyhamster
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Solar Strength
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 557 Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:32 am Post subject: |
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fluffyhamster wrote: |
Sahsa wrote: |
There is a logical connection. The Direct Method paved the way for Audio-Lingualism by removing reliance on L1. The latter methodology is firmly based on Behaviorist theory. |
Well, "yes" ('behaviourism in comparison was only really in vogue for the couple of decades following WWII'), but given the decline of audiolingualism there is now no longer that connection (though one could argue that it is still an influence, even in CLT). If the direct methodology had been developed and promulgated more fully in civilian circles rather than/before military ones, it doubtless would've been a lot less behaviourally-inclined. That is, the connection is more historical-chance than necessarily logical~contemporary. (Ah, the benefit of hindsight and all that). Anyway, I perhaps should've added 'nowadays' after the 'logically related' in the first sentence of my previous post to help clarify things.
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Wasn't audiolingualism the method used with the U.S. Military, not the Direct Method? Berlitz based their instruction on the Direct Method. My understanding is that with the Direct Method, according to a friend a Berlitz, use of L1 is forbidden. They also use a lot of drills and questions, etc.
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:41 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it was. Hence all the drilling, and its other name, 'Army Method'. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Solar Strength wrote: |
Wasn't audiolingualism the method used with the U.S. Military, not the Direct Method? Berlitz based their instruction on the Direct Method.
The Direct Method, according to a friend a Berlitz, told me that use of L1 is forbidden. They also use a lot of drills and questions, etc.
I'm just curious how Behaviorism underpins the methodology. |
Yes, "the" DM (Berlitz etc) predates audiolingualism, but as we've established, L2-only was also a feature in the army's language training (see e.g. Passin's Encounter with Japan), hence it was also a DM of sorts (and you'd be hard-pressed to notice much difference in the descriptions of methodology given in the definitions for 'direct method' and 'audiolingual method' in Richards & Schmidt's Longman Dictionary of Language Teaching & Applied Linguistics, for example). The presumably more extensive drills, push-ups for failure, mim-mem methods etc used by the military then made things explicitly ("much much more") behavioural, and by then (and only by then) there were obviously the theories of Skinner to allude to to lend a veneer, but only a veneer, of scientific respectability. (The rest of course is history, after the C guy came along and put in the cognitive boot, and then communicative methods added communicative competencies and functional considerations to the form-based/grammatical).
So (to return somewhat to the OP), just because L1-only was a feature of Berlitz and then audiolingual methods does not mean that modern communicative classrooms using English only are also behaviourist (at least, not in the "strong" way that audiolingualism was). Even if you factor occasional drilling into the mix, that does not make English-only classes that (or too) behaviourist. There has been enough added (functions, information-gap tasks, thinking and noticing activities, "etc etc etc") in CLT to make learning more mindful nowadays (cf. mindless), and when schools (well, non-Berlitz ones at least, not that I really know what goes on in Berlitz ones!) say "We use the Direct Method", all they primarily mean is that they have an English-only policy in the classroom (rather than allowing L1 or much if any translation), and secondly, that they perhaps try to use ostensive means and concrete examples/contexts (i.e. "direct" methods) to convey meanings rather than rely on too much explanation, theorizing etc ("indirect" methods). |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Berlitz's Direct Method method, as it were, features heavily teacher-centred question and response, controlled practice simulations/roleplay, little tolerance of error on the learners' part, and involves repetiton, repetiton, repetiton - repeatedly. It is more restrictive than just an English-only policy. So it does seem to incorporate some behaviourist principles as well.
Maybe I am mistaken, but I cannot see much difference between it and the Callan Method... |
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:11 am Post subject: |
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why is this in the newbie forum? |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1838
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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If you mean that the Direct Method is related to behaviourism because people focus on doing things and learning systematically, then all right to a point. However, behaviourism as a psychological approach is a bit more explicit than that, in that it focuses on (not exclusively):
- cumulative learning (cf B.F. Skinner, particularly related to education
- positive reinforcement or other contingencies consequent on behavior (read educational performance) - again, particularly read Skinner
- association (see Pavlov, Watson) - other methods including some of the touchy-feely ones could be said to derive from this
- measured (tested) results, to see if the technique works
So it may derive to some extent, but they are not necessarily the same thing. Some people's views of behaviourism are rather narrow. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:30 am Post subject: |
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@Sasha, Cole: I'm planning to dig out e.g. my Howatt (History of ELT) to double-check if the original DM (of Berlitz himself, and in his earlier schools) sounded that much different to how "it" might've then been following the advent of behaviourism and audiolingualism (the success - and that is what it was, again read stuff like Passin - of the army training programmes must've had some influence on the "other" method and methods generally). But flying forwards in time again there has been enough of a cognitive switch and influence from Chomskyan and then more sociolinguistic linguistics that people (especially civilians) just aren't that comfortable with the B word, despite it having got something of an unfair rap (theories about training dogs and pigeons have always been a bit different from training people, not least because people can and indeed do have to answer back in language training, and eventually move beyond the training. That is, there has and always will be something cognitive going on in there with humans, even if some theorists if not the teachers have seemed uninterested in that). |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1838
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Just as people are knee-jerk negative to behaviourism, then they are also ridiculously positive about Chomsky. I am sorry, but the most recent evidence on how children learn language (making errors which are logical, based on what they know before they are fully schooled in grammar) is far closer to Skinner's idea of cumulative learning than LAD or any of these other cool but not very applicable constructivist theories.
As for the shift to 'cognitive' psychology, it should be remembered that this sprung out of behavioral psychology and, according to behaviourists, is merely compartmentalising certain types of behaviour. Consider for example cognitive therapy techniques such as thought-stopping (to ward off depressive and other negative modes of thinking); these essentially treat thinking as types of behaviour. |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1838
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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And while Skinner's experimental work was of course performed on rats and pigeons (I've done some positive reinforcement experiments in my time), you will find that many of the 'schedules of reinforcement' are embedded in very human activities.
Have you noticed how gambling machines work? To really hook the punter, they use intermittent reinforcement (every now and again, unpredictably, you win). This is the most powerful method for long-term positive reinforcement and works very well with humans.
I could go on, but this is a teaching forum rather than an undergraduate psychology class. |
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Solar Strength
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 557 Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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I just watched two lesson, one Audiolingual and the other a Berlitz Direct Method class, and I have a tough time distinguishing the difference between the two methodologies. I mean, if you want to watch a lesson an TPR and Task-Based learning or Communicative Approach, the differences are obvious. But not with the Audiolingual method or Direct Method. |
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