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inotu-unotme
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Does anyone know any good sites for finding apartment prices in Netherlands?
I'm looking to make the move there. Is there a cheaper part of Amsterdam I could check into? I keep hearing its very expensive. What isn't anymore right? How far outside Amsterdam would I need to go in order for rent to drop a bit? |
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spiral78
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I worked in the Netherlands for some years, though not Amsterdam...in my experience, rents can vary hugely dependent upon what you are willing to put up with, basically. Shared flat can be fairly reasonable - maybe 2-300 monthly, but roommates....well, could be great. 
Student flats are obviously on the cheap side, but again, be wary of conditions and check things out carefully, particularly if you value the ability to get a full night's sleep. It's rare to find anything furnished, and likely you will have to even provide your own basic appliances. I never found anything small and quiet, even totally unfurnished, for under about 700 euro/monthly.
The teaching market isn't exactly wide-open in the Netherlands, either. I'm assuming you have the 'right' passport and won't have visa issues as well... |
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inotu-unotme
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I won't be teaching in Europe at all. 100% my on-line thing which is partly teaching. The other stuff I do I'm sure would bore people to death. But, its all on-line with income coming from other countries. Within 12 months the Netherlands is my target.
Please I'm curious, do people live together a great deal? And if they do live together often is there a on-line source where they find each other? Or a newspaper? I love to read up on things and get good resources if I can. |
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spiral78
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| I won't be teaching in Europe at all. 100% my on-line thing which is partly teaching. The other stuff I do I'm sure would bore people to death. But, its all on-line with income coming from other |
That's cool, but you still have to have a legal right to live in the country. Assuming you are from an EU member country, no problem. If not, it won't work. Netherlands and surrounding countries are quite strict about this.
Yeah, people tend to room together fairly often, if their income level doesn't allow for independent living. |
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inotu-unotme
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Thank you.
France seems to have a paper people use for apartment info and things going on around town. Just things that help you fit into the community. I was looking for the same type of thing.
I just came across these resources on line. I have no idea how old this info is. And I would hope that some of the resources may enable people to connect to others which may in turn help finding an apartment:
ACCESS
Address: City Hall (Atrium), Spui 70, 2511 BT The Hague
Tel: 070 346 2525
Fax: 070 356 1332
Email: [email protected]
Address: Prinses Irenestraat 59, 1077 WV Amsterdam
Tel: 020 423 3217
Fax: 020 423 3480
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.access-nl.org
ACCESS is a not-for-profit organisation established in 1986 to bridge the gap between the international community and English-speaking services available in the Netherlands. They supply free information from their extensive database, advice and support; offer publications, courses, events, and a professional counselling referral service with about 160 volunteers, a management team, and a board of directors.
Accueil des Francophones de La Haye
Address: Postbus 17156, 2502 CD The Hague
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.accueillahaye.com/
This welcome group was created with the aim to facilitate rapid integration of the French abroad so that each French person can benefit as much as possible from their expatriation. The association is not political or religious and non-commercial. L'Accueil des Francophones de la Haye receives newcomers with local representatives to help them integrate in their new environment. They give information in the form of booklets containing practical details when they sign up. They propose a vast amount of cultural, sportive and lingual activities. For more information about activities and to participate, everybody needs to sign up.
Connect International
Main Office: Paterswoldseweg 810, 9728 BM Groningen
Tel: 050 521 4541
Fax: 050 521 4543
E-mail: [email protected] ; [email protected]
Website: www.connect-int.org
Connect International provides a wide range of moving and settling assistance through a Relocation Service. They organise monthly events for expatriates and international residents through the Connecting Worlds Club. They provide practical information on living, working or studying in the Northern Netherlands. There are also networking opportunities through the Connect Business Club for international companies and Dutch companies with international concerns.
Indiawijzer
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.indiawijzer.nl
This is a tribute to Indo-Dutch culture. Indiawijzer is an information portal. It's a database with information relating to India and has a comprehensive overview of the Dutch organisations, institutions and individuals involved in one way or the other with India. It covers only one country - the Netherlands.
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PeterBar
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"France seems to have a paper people use for apartment info and things going on around town[b]"
www.fusac.org |
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inotu-unotme
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"France seems to have a paper people use for apartment info and things going on around town[b]"
www.fusac.org |
Thank you for the newspaper link. I was looking for resources similar if possible for Netherlands.
I totally forgot about craigslist for housing. So, there is that:
http://holland.craigslist.org/apa/
I could not find any other sites for Netherlands so called cheap housing. Or, maybe apartment sharing. Maybe theres not a paper with info like that, I don't know.
This was an interesting article on rent:
http://www.expatica.com/nl/housing/renting/Fair-rent-for-all-in-the-Netherlands_15396.html
I also recently came across these clubs for women which may help fit into the community and hopefully help connect with people for housing, roommates, etc. It was such a great list I had to add it:
WOMEN'S CLUBS
American Netherlands Club of Rotterdam
Address: P.O. Box 25036, 3001 HA Rotterdam
Contact: Lillian Maas
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.ancorotterdam.com/
The purpose of this club is to promote and encourage friendship and understanding between women who are citizens of the US and women from the Netherlands, as well as women of other nationalities who reside in the Netherlands. English is the language of the Club. ANCOR supports various charities through the Club's philanthropic endeavors.
American Women's Club of Amsterdam (AWCA)
Address: P.O. Box 70133, 1007 KC Amsterdam
Tel: 020 673 3752
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.awca.nl/amsterdam/
AWCA is a non-profit, volunteer organisation providing friendship and support among American women, as well as non-American women with close ties to the US, who are living in the Netherlands. At the monthly General Meetings, featured speakers present topics of political, economic, or cultural relevance. Newcomers are always welcome to attend. In addition, gatherings of various kinds are held in each of the four regional areas: Amsterdam, 't Gooi, Haarlem, Amstelveen. AWCA members receive the monthly magazine, Tulip Talk, and have the opportunity to take part in classes and lectures, community service projects, Newcomer Activities, cultural events, tours, Moms, Dads & Tots events, day and evening social events (some with partners and families), and of course, share in the expected cup of coffee and friendly laughter.
American Women's Club of The Hague (AWC)
Address: Nieuwe Duinweg 25, 2587 AB The Hague
Tel: 070 350 6007
Fax: 070 358 7772
Email: [email protected]
Website:www.awcthehague.org
For three quarters of a century, AWC of The Hague has been providing a home away from home for many Americans and other expatriates alike. The 350+ members work hard to provide a very comfortable, inviting clubhouse and organise numerous activities, tours, classes and fundraising events during the year for all ages. They are a nonprofit organisation; as such their primary goal is to serve as a support network for American women living and working in the Netherlands. At the AWC they strive to not only support members but to make them feel welcome and to help them make the most of their experience living abroad.
Australian and New Zealand Women’s Club in the Netherlands (ANZWC)
Address: P.O. Box 25, 2501 CA The Hague
Membership: Karoline Poulsonmailto:[email protected]
Website: www.anzwc.org/
The purpose of the club is to connect Women from Australia and New Zealand who have moved to the Netherlands either on a permanent or temporary basis. The club organises monthly social events not only for women, but also their partners and families. The aim is for Australians and New Zealanders and their families who find themselves working and living away from home, to network together. Social events include: Regular Coffee Mornings/Social outings both during the day and at weekends for members and families/Melbourne Cup Day Luncheon, Summer Drinks and Christmas Drinks to name a few. The club is a friendly social outlet and membership is for women who are either Australian or New Zealand citizens.
CONNECTing WOMEN
Address: Christus Triumfatorkerk, Juliana van Stolberglaan 154, 2595 CL The Hague
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.connectingwomen.nl/
CONNECTing WOMEN aims to provide a forum for motivating and supporting professional and internationally aware women in the paid and unpaid sectors through networking and presentations at their monthly meetings, this website together with a variety of interesting workshops. They are a very mixed group with ages ranging from 20s to 60s. They come from many different backgrounds and countries; some of them work full-time, others part-time, and some are not currently in paid employment. A wish to share experiences and information by meeting with other women who enjoy intelligent, stimulating conversation brings them together. The organisation is very relaxed and friendly.
Crafty Expat Ladies In Holland
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CraftyExpatLadiesInHolland/
A group of expat women share craft ideas together and make new friends.
English Language Bond of Women (ELBOW)
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.elbowclub.nl/pages/clubinfo.php
ELBOW is a social organisation based in Dordrecht in the Netherlands. It's intended to allow women from Dordrecht and surrounding areas whose mother tongue is English (or otherwise approved by the ELBOW committee) to meet each other in an informal, social atmosphere.
European Professional Women’s Network Amsterdam
Contact: Rieke Smakman
Website: http://europeanpwn-amsterdam.net/
Women's clubs in the NetherlandsEuropean Professional Women’s Network is a vibrant growing pan-European federation of more than 15 women’s network. The common objective is to provide women with the tools, networks and support they need to assume leadership. They aim to share knowledge across Europe, and are participating in several Europe-wide initiatives. They combine a sophisticated online networking platform, linking several thousand business women across Europe, with regular, offline events in many cities including Amsterdam.
Expat Women
Contact: Andrea Martins
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.expatwomen.com/
ExpatWomen.com is a comprehensive, global website helping women living overseas. The site displays 1,000+ quality content pages, over 1,000 expat women blogs, 200+ readers' stories, invaluable country resource pages, interviews with successful expat women, loads of motivational articles and an inspirational blog and monthly newsletter. ExpatWomen.com's mission is to inspire success abroad by providing a first-stop website to share stories, network globally, develop personally and find the best resources.
‘s Hertogenbosch International Women’s Club (HIWC)
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.hiwc.webs.com/
HIWC is a social club for English-speaking women living in and around Den Bosch. It was set up in 2004 by Sharon McLaughlin and now has over 100 members of all ages, nationalities and backgrounds. New members are always welcome, whether somebody's new to Den Bosch or whether somebody's been living there for years. Membership is free and payment is only required for events where there's a cost associated (e.g. movie tickets, meals, drinks).
International Women's Club Eindhoven
Contact: Uschi Drude
Tel: 040-221 8978
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.iwce.nl/
Business women's clubs in the NetherlandsThe IWCE is an organisation that promotes networking between English-speaking women. Our monthly meetings help members get information about the Eindhoven area, make friends, and to feel more settled in the Netherlands.There is a monthly meeting on the 3rd Thursday of every month (except July and August) from 10:00-12:00 at Thermae Son. Childcare is available on the premises. At our meetings members and guests can socialise and network over a cup of coffee or tea and then enjoy a featured speaker.
Aside from the monthly meeting, club members can also participate in 20 different special interest groups that offer a diverse range of activities, including: Baby Play, Evening Book Club, Bridge, Choir, Film Club, Handicraft, Lunch Out, Dutch, English, Italian, and Spanish Conversational. There are also several groups that include spouses and partners: Gourmet Club and Dinner Out with Spouses. The IWCE is a non-commercial, non-political and non-denominational organisation. We welcome women of all nationalities and from all walks of life. Join us as a guest at our next meeting!
The International Women's Club of Rotterdam (Pickwick Club)
Address: The 'Lommerrijk' Hillegersberg, Straatweg 99, 3054 AB Rotterdam
Tel: 0871 902 129
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://iwcr.blogspot.nl/
It's a social meeting place for women of all ages and backgrounds with English as a common denominator. Many of the members are married to Dutchmen and like the opportunity to touch base with other English-speakers. There are various club activities which include a monthly meeting with a speaker or demonstration, gardening and literary clubs which meet at members' homes, cinema visits, and outings to other events are also organised. Yearly events include the spring and Christmas lunches and an annual Bring and Buy sale.
International Women's Club of South Limburg
Address: P.O.Box 649, 6200 AP Maastricht
Contact: [email protected]
Website: http://www.iwc-sl.nl/
The club was founded in February 1985 as a non-profit organisation. The primary purpose of the Club is to bring together women of all nationalities living in the area of South Limburg, promoting friendship, sharing mutual interests and extending support and information to newcomers. Members are invited to participate in all activities, including country walks, museum visits, playing bridge, patchwork quilting, book reading and discussion, yoga, language classes and mothers and children groups. Once a month the club hosts a social evening for all members, often featuring guest speakers. To facilitate contact between members living in the same neighbourhood, the club is divided into area groups. A newcomer’s welcome coffee is organised on a regular basis to introduce new and/or potential members to the club.
International Women's Contact Amsterdam
Address: Industrieele Groote Club, Dam 27, 1012 JC Amsterdam
Contact: Fiona Thompson
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.iwcamsterdam.nl/
The Club promotes and increases friendship among women of all nationalities living in and around Amsterdam. The Club also helps members who come to Holland to settle in, enjoy their new environment and gain a better understanding of Dutch life and culture. It's an ideal way to make friends, learn a little more about each other, exchange information and socialise. They provide a wide range of activities, lectures, excursions and special interest groups which appeal to many women in the international community. All nationalities are welcome to the club. The club language is English and all activities are conducted in this language. The IWC has no political, religious or commercial affiliations.
International Women's Contact The Hague
Address: Vierloper 10, 2586 KV The Hague
Email: mailto:[email protected]
Website: http://www.iwcthehague.nl/
IWC The Hague was founded in 1978 and brings together expatriate women living in the Netherlands as well as Dutch women with an international perspective. It provides opportunities to interact and share each other's cultures and interests. It further aims to foster goodwill, friendship and understanding among international women and in doing so, contributes to strengthening understanding among nations. The Club language is English. The Club is not political, religious or commercial.
International Women's Contact Utrecht (IWCU)
Address: Immanuelkerk Wijkgemeente, Wijkgebouw De schakel, Soestdijkseweg 49b, 3732 HD De Bilt
Contact: Carrie Van Zalk
Tel: 035 621 4931
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.iwcu.nl/
The purpose is to give women a chance to meet each other, exchange information and socialise. They are women of all ages, interests, experiences and circumstances. They come from various countries and backgrounds, ranging from career professionals, mothers and housewives, to students and retired citizens. All nationalities are welcome, although some level of English is helpful since all activities are conducted in this language. They provide activities that are both informative and enjoyable, including Mums and Tots, seasonal excursions and parties, pub nights, gallery and museum visits, guest speakers, a Bookworms discussion group, a Greenfingers gardening club, Aspiring Chefs workshops, wine tastings, walking tours, plus monthly V&D coffee mornings in Utrecht, Amersfoort and Zeist.
Monday Club
Contact: Christine van Beckhoven
Tel: 06 5336 1896
Email: [email protected]
Writing groups in the NetherlandsIt was set-up about 35 years ago by expatriate English-speaking women living in Zoetermeer. They meet once a month on the first Monday of the month in premises in the Veur in Rokkeveen. They are a small club and the main purpose is social interaction, but they have some activities during the meetings perhaps a quiz or bingo and occasionally they do a 'Bake and Take' which raises some funds for themselves. There's often coffee meetings held in members' houses during the month or sometimes individual members get together to go to the cinema, theatre, etc. Occasionally they go out together as a group for dinner, notably the birthday dinners held once a year in September in which they celebrate all members’ birthdays and give each other presents.
MOPS In Holland (Mothers of Preschoolers)
Address: Trinity International Church, Gruttolaan 19-23, 2261 ET Leidschendam
Contact: Sanne Speidel-Poldervaart
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.mopsinholland.org/home.html
MOPS is a warm, caring, and dynamic group of women who all have one thing in common -- to be the very best mothers they can be. The MOPS ministry brings the importance of motherhood to the forefront and provides mothers of preschool-aged children with a network of friends and Christian-based resources to guide and support them. The group meets on the first and third Thursday of the month from 9:15 - 11:30. They come together to laugh, talk, and share together while the children are being cared for by others. A MOPS mentor shares a 'mentor moment' with words of inspiration and encouragement. Afterwards, there's time for meaningful discussion in the discussion groups, and this can range on a variety of topics that touch mothers today. It's during the discussion group time that the moms get to know themselves and other moms better developing friendships and providing an opportunity for personal expression.
Petroleum Wives Club of The Hague (PWC)
Address: P.O. Box 655, 2240 AP Wassenaar
Contact: Marja Chapman
Tel: 06 3490 7185
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.pwc-thehague.com/
PWC is formed from a group of women whose husbands or partners are employed by, or otherwise are active for, oil companies and related petro-chemical industries. They meet regularly throughout the year for a variety of social, cultural and charitable functions including coffee mornings, guided walks, canal tours, museum trips, lunches, parties and fundraising events. Activities are communicated through a monthly newsletter and the website. They are a friendly and welcoming bunch of women.
Women in Twente (W!T)
Contact: Phing Choo
Tel: 040 223 0063
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.womenintwente.nl/
W!T is a group of women from the Netherlands and abroad which support incoming international women and help them 'feel at home' in Twente. Many of them have experienced intercultural integration in different locations and would like to connect with other women moving to that area. W!T is a ‘home base’ for international women in Twente. The group is for networking and support, integration and information sharing, and multicultural exchange.
Women with Dutch Partners (WWDP)
Email: [email protected] (information on Amsterdam group)
WWDP is a large active group of women who live in Amsterdam, come from all over the world, and all have one thing in common - they have Dutch partners. The group meets every month (usually on the first Friday of the month) at one of its members' homes and has a pre-selected topic to discuss and exchange views on. WWDP Noord Holland meets in and around Alkmaar. There's a morning meeting on the first Friday of the month and an evening meeting on the second Friday. There's also a WWDP group meeting in 't Gooi and another in Haarlem.
Women's International Group Zeeland (WIGZ)
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.wigz.nl
WIGZ is open to women of every nationality looking to meet new friends, socialise and take part in the many activities in English. They are based in the province of Zeeland, the most south-westerly part of the Netherlands. WIGZ is a pro-active and multi-cultural organisation that has something to suit all tastes and all ages. They offer the opportunity to meet new people, and also get more out of life in Zeeland. Some are in Zeeland permanently or only for a short time. All enjoy the wide range of social activities offered.
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spiral78
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| Wita a US passport, one can only stay maximum 90 days in the Netherlands, whether working or not. They are VERY strict about this. |
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Sashadroogie
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That is the Dutch for you. Very precise and systematic. At least American passport holders do not need to apply for a tourist visa too. The issuing authorities there, and in Germany, usually count the exact number of days of one's planned visit and issue a Schengen for that time-frame. Not an hour more.
Total contrast to Spain and Italy where everyone seems to get three or six-monthers regardless. |
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spiral78
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| No more 6-monthers for non-EU citizens in Spain or Italy. Sure, the border control guys are a bit more relaxed, but they DO catch at least some of the overstayers these days. And apply consequences. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Hmmm. Not sure about that. The other half got a 12-monther for Spain recently. Not the first visa, though. |
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Sashadroogie
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| 'Course, these are tourist visas. Nothing to do whatsoever with work permits etc. |
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Re housing and rent in the Netherlands.
I lived there for a while and because I didn't have a permanent work contract, I couldn't find many places that would rent to me (no "stable" income, you see). My choice was limited to one doggy flat after another... This wasn't Amsterdam, btw, but I can't imagine you'll be any better off there.
When I say "doggy" flat, I mean no central heating (gas fires), peeling plasterwork, faulty wiring... In my flat there was no sink in the bathroom (tho one was installed, just not plumbed in), a boiler that had to be replaced, and lino in one of the rooms, that when taken up, had been lined by newspaper from the 1940s... The balcony was condemned by a housing official, and there were regular fights outside in the street. It was by far the worst place I have ever lived in my life.
If I were you, I'd find a room in someone else's nice flat rather than try and find one on your own. |
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inotu-unotme
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Re housing and rent in the Netherlands.
I lived there for a while and because I didn't have a permanent work contract, I couldn't find many places that would rent to me (no "stable" income, you see). My choice was limited to one doggy flat after another... This wasn't Amsterdam, btw, but I can't imagine you'll be any better off there.
When I say "doggy" flat, I mean no central heating (gas fires), peeling plasterwork, faulty wiring... In my flat there was no sink in the bathroom (tho one was installed, just not plumbed in), a boiler that had to be replaced, and lino in one of the rooms, that when taken up, had been lined by newspaper from the 1940s... The balcony was condemned by a housing official, and there were regular fights outside in the street. It was by far the worst place I have ever lived in my life.
If I were you, I'd find a room in someone else's nice flat rather than try and find one on your own. |
Well jeeeezze...
I appreciate your comment. I've never heard of living conditions like that before. I'm not saying it can't happen, I just haven't heard of housing like that. I think most of the people I knew that stayed in Amsterdam lived in upper class conditions. But, to be honest I always find it more interesting to know how the real people live. |
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