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Poll: How many resumes do you send out?
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How many jobs/recruiters did you apply for
1-10
41%
 41%  [ 5 ]
11-20
33%
 33%  [ 4 ]
21-40
25%
 25%  [ 3 ]
More than 40
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 12

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talentedcrayon



Joined: 19 Mar 2013
Posts: 91

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:13 pm    Post subject: Poll: How many resumes do you send out? Reply with quote

To land a decent job in China how many resumes do you usually send out?

What kind of response rate do you think you get?

Do you apply for jobs in a specific city (Shanghai, Beijing?) or do you tend to keep your options open and apply to any/all jobs in China.

Do you apply to jobs with specific conditions (pay, students, subjects), or again do you keep your options open?

I am curious because I think it would be useful information for most job seekers in China to know where they stand and what it takes to get a decent job.

I'll probably do more polls later.

Thanks for your feedback.
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Shroob



Joined: 02 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent out quite a few speculative CVs/cover letters.

It's a lot easier to find out things when you're on the ground in a city you know.

I only want to work with universities - so I went to wikipedia and found a city I wouldn't mind working in, looked at the unis and found an email address. Most didn't get a reply but a number did, probably 25%. These were not advertise positions, I just sent out emails so it's understandable.

A few interesting offers but the majority weren't what I was looking for.
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Piper2



Joined: 13 Jun 2014
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Poll: How many resumes do you send out? Reply with quote

talentedcrayon wrote:
To land a decent job in China how many resumes do you usually send out?

What kind of response rate do you think you get?

Do you apply for jobs in a specific city (Shanghai, Beijing?) or do you tend to keep your options open and apply to any/all jobs in China.

Do you apply to jobs with specific conditions (pay, students, subjects), or again do you keep your options open?

I am curious because I think it would be useful information for most job seekers in China to know where they stand and what it takes to get a decent job.

I'll probably do more polls later.

Thanks for your feedback.


Well, even in China it is still reasonable to assume the more CVs/resumes you send out, the more jobs you apply for, the more chances you have of getting a job.

I get fewer responses than emails I send. Does it matter what the percentage is Very Happy ? The response rate might concern me if I had little money and I was paying for ink, paper, envelopes, stamps, and I was writing letters out by hand. But nowadays I send (free) emails and generally they are (copied and pasted) variations on similar themes that usually take seconds to a few minutes to tweak for a particular job application.

I apply for more or less the type of job I am looking for, with more or less the conditions that are acceptable to me, in more or less the type of place I am interested in. I do not apply for jobs I do not want, with conditions I do not want, in places I do not want to live. If you apply for jobs you do not want then you will get (even more) offers you are not interested in.

Bear in mind that various factors can determine whether you are offered a particular job. Some you control, some you can influence, and others you do not control or influence, e.g...
Your qualifications and experience
Your age
Your physical appearance
Your passport
Your willingness to accept what is being offered
Your competition
How you are perceived by the FAO/recruiter
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Janiny



Joined: 31 May 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I answered the poll 1-10, but this last time around it was recruiters and even individual schools that called me after I posted my CV here at Dave's. You ought to give it a try.
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talentedcrayon



Joined: 19 Mar 2013
Posts: 91

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted a resume on Daves a while ago. I think I had about 10 responses at the time.

I am not asking so much for myself, but more because I want to get a better understanding of the teaching job market in China.

In my case, I am thinking about teaching accounting in China. There are not many jobs out there for that. But, there aren't many applicants either. I don't have much choice but to apply for the 4-5 jobs I can find.
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naturegirl321



Joined: 04 May 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone posted their CV recently on Dave's? Last time I did every response I got was from a recruiter. And they paid about the same.
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Alien abductee



Joined: 08 Jun 2014
Posts: 527
Location: Kuala Lumpur

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of job boards have been inundated with recruiters these days because (educated guess) schools find it easier to pay a recruiter to find someone than to do it themselves. As a result recruiters very actively seek out employees, the schools much less so. If you don't want to deal with recruiters then you'll need to find and contact the schools directly yourself. Some job sites are better for this than others.
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we have to divide the resumes sent out idea into a) those sent in response to ads and b) those sent speculatively.
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talentedcrayon



Joined: 19 Mar 2013
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's true Non Sequitor. I was actually just thinking about responses to ads.
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