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dianajc



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:13 pm    Post subject: Too Old to Work in Japan? Reply with quote

Hello!
I am a confused newbie here on this forum. I am 56 years old, degree-educated, recently qualified in EFL (120 hour course). I have more than 30 years experience in the pharmaceutical industry, including high-level consultancy and supervisory roles. However, I do not have any direct teaching experience.

I would really like to know if there is any prospect of me being able to find work in Japan teaching one-to-one or small groups of adults.

I appreciate your experience and advice which will help me make a few important decisions.

Many thanks.
Diana
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The Fifth Column



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traditionally, Japan has been rife with ageism, but as an old fart, I'm not interested in living/working there.

I guess younger ones can chime in if anything has changed...
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if it's something you would consider, but we have universities that focus on medicine, dentistry, et cetera. They usually need people to teach English as used within specific fields. Your experience would be an asset for such a position.
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW there are a lot of "old farts" in universities these days.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maitoshi wrote:
BTW there are a lot of "old farts" in universities these days.


That's great news for the OP! A few decades back in my 30s, I was told that I was cutting it very close...

Didn't much matter to me, tho, as I wound up hooking up wid a very nice slice of "Christmas Cake"!
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rtm



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maitoshi wrote:
Not sure if it's something you would consider, but we have universities that focus on medicine, dentistry, et cetera. They usually need people to teach English as used within specific fields. Your experience would be an asset for such a position.

My understanding is that for this, the OP would need the indicated relevant industry experience + at least a masters degree (in TESOL to be more competitive, or in the disciplinary subject for less competitive positions).

It sounds like ALT positions wouldn't be for the OP (based on the preference for "one-to-one or small groups of adults"). While some eikaiwa companies (private language 'schools') prefer younger teachers, some do also hire older teachers since some students feel more comfortable with a teacher who isn't half their age.
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I was thinking she had an advanced degree from the post. Guess not?
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rtm



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maitoshi wrote:
Sorry, I was thinking she had an advanced degree from the post. Guess not?

No idea. All she said was "degree-educated" (though, to me, that sounds like "first degree"). Was just throwing that info out for clarification.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounded like British terminology to me...I took as a received degree...
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kzjohn



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diana,

A Master's degree would certainly help a lot, TESOL of course, but in most anything really.

This is not a job offer, but I work at a small private uni with a pharmacy college (half my classes there, and I'm coordinator for those courses), and while we don't need anyone right now, if you happened to be in town I would certainly be interested in talking to you.
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dianajc



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:32 am    Post subject: Too Old to Work in Japan? Reply with quote

Thank you everyone for responding to me.

To clarify, I have a B.Sc Hons in Microbiology, not a Masters degree. Most of my working experience is in drug regulatory affairs (20 years) where I spent time writing a wide range of scientific documents including data assessment and dossier compilation. I am not intending to do a CELTA course on top of my TEFL certificate; it's quite expensive (£1100 at our nearest college).

I wondered if there were any visa issues with my age.

Thank you kzjohn for your idea, maybe we could correspond further by pm on this.

How do I find out about the specialised universities who are likely to require someone like me? I am not interested in something very competitive that requires high-level qualifications.

And in your opinion, which would be the better eikaiwa companies? I have already read some horror stories which are quite off-putting.

Again, many thanks for your advice. I really appreciate it.
Diana
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have much experience with eikaiwa, but JREC-IN and JACET are good places to look for job postings at unis in Japan.
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dianajc



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:26 am    Post subject: Too Old to Work in Japan? Reply with quote

Thank you Maitoshi for your information. I looked and it seems that I am way under-qualified and probably too old. Time to think again............
Diana
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries! Either way, it'd be an adventure for sure Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just another thought, others on this board seem to have taught in China at uni with a B.A., so your experience could make you very valuable there, too, if this is something you'd be open to.
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