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airport5
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 Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:16 am Post subject: Is japan worth a try? |
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| I'm making my way through the forums....Is it worth it to try teaching in japan? I've taught in 4 other countries in Asia. |
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nightsintodreams
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| If you're coming to experience life in Japan or study Japanese than undoubtedly yes. If you expect to further your career then perhaps not. |
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mitsui
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Depends. If you have low expectations, yes.
If you are single then why not?
I am working harder for less money these days. The longer you stay the tougher it can be.
You have to have a lot of patience since there is a lot of frustration in working here. |
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Pitarou
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| nightsintodreams wrote: |
| If you're coming to experience life in Japan or study Japanese than undoubtedly yes. If you expect to further your career then perhaps not. |
Sums it up perfectly. |
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Black_Beer_Man
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| mitsui wrote: |
Depends. If you have low expectations, yes.
If you are single then why not?
I am working harder for less money these days. The longer you stay the tougher it can be.
You have to have a lot of patience since there is a lot of frustration in working here. |
mitsui's comments are spot on too.
I remember one person saying that the Japanese prefer a quick turnover of foreigners (especially if you're from a developing country to do factory work). All foreigners are welcome to stay 1, 2 or maybe 3 years. More than that and you're overstaying your welcome. Even learning to speak Japanese doesn't impress them all that much.
Proof of that is the policy that no foreigner can every get Japanese citizenship. That's policy.
I digress. If you want to give Japan a go for 1 -2 years, by all means come on over. |
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Pitarou
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
| Proof of that is the policy that no foreigner can every get Japanese citizenship. That's policy. |
That's not true. |
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The Fifth Column
Joined: 11 Jun 2014
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Location: His habitude with lexical items protrudes not unlike a damaged pollex!!!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
| I remember one person saying that the Japanese prefer a quick turnover of foreigners (especially if you're from a developing country to do factory work). All foreigners are welcome to stay 1, 2 or maybe 3 years. More than that and you're overstaying your welcome. Even learning to speak Japanese doesn't impress them all that much. |
And, DON'T even THINK about carting off any of the women folk!!! |
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The Fifth Column
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Pitarou wrote: |
| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
| Proof of that is the policy that no foreigner can every get Japanese citizenship. That's policy. |
That's not true. |
Jes' ask Aridou Debito... |
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Pitarou
Joined: 16 Nov 2009
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Location: Narita, Japan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| The Fifth Column wrote: |
| Pitarou wrote: |
| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
| Proof of that is the policy that no foreigner can every get Japanese citizenship. That's policy. |
That's not true. |
Jes' ask Aridou Debito... |
Or, more recently, Donald Keene. |
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rxk22
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| mitsui wrote: |
Depends. If you have low expectations, yes.
If you are single then why not?
I am working harder for less money these days. The longer you stay the tougher it can be.
You have to have a lot of patience since there is a lot of frustration in working here. |
Agreed. But on dating Japanese women; don't marry one, if you plan on leaving. They are prolly the worst at adapting when outside of their country. |
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rtm
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| If you're coming to experience life in Japan or study Japanese than undoubtedly yes. If you expect to further your career then perhaps not. |
Agreed. If the OP has some reason to want to live in Japan, then it's worth trying. Otherwise, and assuming that the OP's teaching in 4 other countries in Asia was a language school type places, then Japan will likely be more of the same.
Also, most of the comments so far have been about living in Japan long-term. If the OP just wants to come and live in Japan for a few years and teach at a language school, then more power to him.
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| But on dating Japanese women; don't marry one, if you plan on leaving. They are prolly the worst at adapting when outside of their country. |
But also keep in mind that everyone is different, and some Japanese women do quite well outside of their country. |
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The Fifth Column
Joined: 11 Jun 2014
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| mitsui wrote: |
| But on dating Japanese women; don't marry one, if you plan on leaving. They are prolly the worst at adapting when outside of their country. |
then,
| rtm wrote: |
| But also keep in mind that everyone is different, and some Japanese women do quite well outside of their country. |
Both are right. My wife was more then happy to escape the "Land of a Thousand Eyes".
But, we met MANY Japanese wives exiled because of Japanese husbands who were assigned overseas who couldn't wait to get back to Japan in order to exhale!
Talk about fish out of water!  |
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rxk22
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RTM, as 5th said as well, it is not all Japanese women. Though if you were to look at groups, I am sure the Japanese would be close to last in ability/willingness to integrate. When I was in the US, all the Japanese I met were chomping to go back home. THere were exceptions, but it was true for the most part.
I think for people just wanting a short Japanese experience, why not come for 6-8 weeks? Stay at a gaijin house, and be a tourist. It is really expensive to come here and set up your life. Instead of having to come here and work for a year to recoup the moving costs, just tourist it up. I feel that you would get more out of it, and it would possibly cost less than moving here for a year. |
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nightsintodreams
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| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| I think for people just wanting a short Japanese experience, why not come for 6-8 weeks? Stay at a gaijin house, and be a tourist. It is really expensive to come here and set up your life. Instead of having to come here and work for a year to recoup the moving costs, just tourist it up. I feel that you would get more out of it, and it would possibly cost less than moving here for a year. |
I'm not saying you're wrong or that that isn't good advice, only that I dissagree with it. Coming here on vacation 8 weeks would be far more expensive than the 250,000 to 400,000 yen needed to set up here. Also, you'll learn and experience a lot more by living here a year or two.
That's just my opinion though, coming for 4-8 weeks has its benefits too. |
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Maitoshi
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I'd like to echo what many have already stated about everyone being different regarding adaptability, et cetera. Yes, there are all types, but people also change.
I'd like to add that if you do choose a J-lady as a life partner, that both parties ought to be willing to try living in the others' country long-term, at least initially. You may find that your feelings, or hers, change dramatically as more of life happens, and one of you may need to make some serious compromises if you value the relationship. |
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