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Good book for teaching British culture to teenagers?
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dragonpiwo



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:27 am    Post subject: Good book for teaching British culture to teenagers? Reply with quote

I know about 'In Britain'. Anyone got any other good ideas?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Harry Potter Series - which shows them two important things: even impoverished ESL teachers can become multimillionairesesses and British youth today are essentially Satanists who will end up in Eternal Heck..
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:58 pm    Post subject: Good book Reply with quote

You could do worse than "A Kestrel for a Knave", later filmed as "Kes" (directed by Ken Loach). Be aware that it contains lots of swear words.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

water rat wrote:
. . . even impoverished ESL teachers can become multimillionairesesses . . .


Yes, we all live in hope . . . for better wages, world peace, that the Broncos win the Superbowl . . .
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:53 pm    Post subject: Money spinner Reply with quote

Making money out of EFL is easy. Simply write a series of course materials, call them Headway and rake in the cash. Oh, hang on, it's already been done. Never mind.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CULTURE ? To TEENAGERS ? This is the sort of question that would drive me back to the bottle after 24 and a half years of sobriety !
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The complete works of Charles Dickens!

Let the yoof see what life was like in the world's first industrialised state when the Piggies ran rampant. I'm sure they'll appreciate how lucky they are to reap the benefits of 150 years or so of Socialism.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
The complete works of Charles Dickens!

Let the yoof see what life was like in the world's first industrialised state when the Piggies ran rampant. I'm sure they'll appreciate how lucky they are to reap the benefits of 150 years or so of Socialism.
Funny you should mention Old Chuck. I showed bits of Oliver Twist (the musical) to Indonesian high school students. They understood perfectly; it might as well have been set in present-day Southeast Asia. The sad truth is that they totally got Dickens' social commentary. It's as the French say, when they're speaking English, "The more things change; the more they remain the same."
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

water rat wrote:
Sashadroogie wrote:
The complete works of Charles Dickens!

Let the yoof see what life was like in the world's first industrialised state when the Piggies ran rampant. I'm sure they'll appreciate how lucky they are to reap the benefits of 150 years or so of Socialism.
Funny you should mention Old Chuck. I showed bits of Oliver Twist (the musical) to Indonesian high school students. They understood perfectly; it might as well have been set in present-day Southeast Asia. The sad truth is that they totally got Dickens' social commentary. It's as the French say, when they're speaking English, "The more things change; the more they remain the same."


Power to the People! I attended a workshop at yesterday's Regional TESOL Conference here in North America where the presenter demonstrated how he uses Freirian dialogue with his students to analyze children's stories (e.g., Little Red Riding Hood) to move the discussion from the surface details of the story to the social implications/commentary underlying the story. Pretty cool!

I'm with Water Rat and Comrade Sasha on this one though. Don't just give a benign, politically "neutral," warm fuzzy introduction to British culture. Use materials that will help your students critically analyze the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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water rat



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

esl_prof wrote:
water rat wrote:
Sashadroogie wrote:
The complete works of Charles Dickens!

Let the yoof see what life was like in the world's first industrialised state when the Piggies ran rampant. I'm sure they'll appreciate how lucky they are to reap the benefits of 150 years or so of Socialism.
Funny you should mention Old Chuck. I showed bits of Oliver Twist (the musical) to Indonesian high school students. They understood perfectly; it might as well have been set in present-day Southeast Asia. The sad truth is that they totally got Dickens' social commentary. It's as the French say, when they're speaking English, "The more things change; the more they remain the same."


Power to the People! I attended a workshop at yesterday's Regional TESOL Conference here in North America where the presenter demonstrated how he uses Freirian dialogue with his students to analyze children's stories (e.g., Little Red Riding Hood) to move the discussion from the surface details of the story to the social implications/commentary underlying the story. Pretty cool!

I'm with Water Rat and Comrade Sasha on this one though. Don't just give a benign, politically "neutral," warm fuzzy introduction to British culture. Use materials that will help your students critically analyze the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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santi84



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm Canadian and I get all my notions of British culture from the Daily Mail (Daily Fail).

But being serious, I have always had good experiences contacting librarians for options. They often have good book lists already compiled.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

santi84 wrote:
I'm Canadian and I get all my notions of British culture from the Daily Mail (Daily Fail). But being serious, I have always had good experiences contacting librarians for options. They often have good book lists already compiled.
Ah yes, the Canucks. Gotta love'm. Ostensibly subjects of the queen, but just like Yanks except when they're dressed to go out of doors. I love your half-inch thick socks and the way you all say 'oat and aboat' like Newfies (even if you're from Vancouver) and the maple leafs you stick on your backpacks so Asian radicals won't mistake you for septic tanks.

LOL! Yeah, that'll work!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Across Culture' by Elizabeth Sharman is good, as is 'Timesaver Customs and Lifestyle in the UK and Ireland' by Julia Keddle et al. Some sections might be a bit out of date now, but could be adapted.

Amazon lists books entitled 'Teen Life UK' and 'Exploring British Culture with Audio CD.' They look relevant, but I haven't used them.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MsBlackcurrant wrote:
'Across Culture' by Elizabeth Sharman is good, as is 'Timesaver Customs and Lifestyle in the UK and Ireland' by Julia Keddle et al. Some sections might be a bit out of date now, but could be adapted.


Agree with these suggestions. In fact, Timesaver have published a few similar books such as one about festivals in the UK and another one all about London. These can all be found f.o.c. on download sites along with the audios.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:04 pm    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Thank you for the suggestions.
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