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blackrosewitch121
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Thank you.
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happyinshangqiu
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I am in China and the university I work at hires Japanese language teachers, this isn't the only university that hires Japanese teachers either, drop me a PM and I can help you.  |
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MuscatGary
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| Europe or at least the EU is almost certainly a no-go as they normally only employ EU citizens. An additional problem is that there is no such thing as a two year degree in Europe. |
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suphanburi
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Options for an Asian English Speaker? |
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| blackrosewitch121 wrote: |
| He has a 2 year degree and a TEFL |
Therein lies the problem.
A "2-year degree" is not a Bachelor's degree (the requirement for LEGAL work in east or SE Asia as a teacher). An "Associates Degree (2 year degree) doesn't work.
His only real option is to complete his education (get the BA) or work his way around as a "tourist" teacher.
AFTER he completes a legitimate BA then most of SE Asia is open to him as a non-native speaker. He would also need a valid TOEIC/IELTS/TOEFL score.
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spiral78
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| OR even European Options for employment as an English Teacher? |
No, not Europe, as pointed out above - wrong passport. |
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blackrosewitch121
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:16 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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Thank you
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blackrosewitch121
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| Why would he need a TOEFL score when English is his first language? He is essentially an american asian with a japanese passport. Also thanks for the help guys. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Options for an Asian English Speaker? |
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| blackrosewitch121 wrote: |
| It is his first language as any other white person. |
All white people speak English as their first language?  |
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rtm
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Options for an Asian English Speaker? |
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| blackrosewitch121 wrote: |
| He is not a non native speaker. It is his first language as any other white person. And I know for a fact you can get legal and complete jobs without a 4 year degree, it will just be a bit more difficult. It is a lie to say that. |
I would be careful about saying that all white people speak English as their first language.
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| He is essentially an american asian with a japanese passport |
But, he's not American in a legal sense. He's a Japanese national who speaks English really well.
Eligibility for visas for English teaching work is determined by country of passport in many (but not all) countries (as it's difficult for government agencies to determine native speaker status based on language skill). Often, one would need to have a passport from the US, UK, Ireland, Canada, Australia, or New Zealand, and sometimes South Africa and places that have English as a colonial language (such as Singapore) are included, but often not. If his only passport is a Japanese passport, it is likely that he will be treated as a Japanese, non-native speaker for legal/visa purposes. In some countries, he can show TOEFL/IELTS scores to show that he has a high enough proficiency in English to teach it. It should be easy enough for him to take the test and ace it. In some countries, extensive academic qualifications can count instead, but it doesn't sound like he has this. It's an unfortunate situation, but that is the reality. |
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blackrosewitch121
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:07 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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Thank you
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Xie Lin
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Options for an Asian English Speaker? |
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| blackrosewitch121 wrote: |
| nomad soul wrote: |
| blackrosewitch121 wrote: |
| It is his first language as any other white person. |
All white people speak English as their first language? |
I mean to say all white americans, but I apologize for that rude comment on my part. I am just frustrated |
Well. . . Actually . . . don't ALL colors of Americans speak English as their first language? (Assuming you mean native-born citizens of the US when you say "americans.")
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spiral78
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| I would be careful about saying that all white people speak English as their first language. |
I'll be sure to tell my students that they should all speak English as their first language. |
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Xie Lin
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But I am confused about your partner. You say he is "half singaporean/japanese." Later you describe him as "essentially an american asian with a japanese passport." Does he have one parent from Singapore and one from Japan? Or does he have one American parent, and one whose parents are from Singapore and Japan? If he is entitled to a US passport, it makes a big difference. (He would still be lacking a BA, so he'd still have that issue to deal with.)
ETA: I just noticed the thread title (duh!) so I assume the answer to the above question is that he is half Japanese and half Singaporean.
Also: You might want to consider capitalizing words referring to nationality if you plan to teach English! Oops, I just re-read the original post--take a look at the rules governing capitalization in general.
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nomad soul
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| blackrosewitch121 wrote: |
| nomad soul wrote: |
| blackrosewitch121 wrote: |
| It is his first language as any other white person. |
All white people speak English as their first language? |
I mean to say all white americans, but I apologize for that rude comment on my part. I am just frustrated |
Ouch. Your clarification isn't much of an improvement over the first statement, especially for Americans of color like myself. In fact, I suggest you seriously reflect on how non-inclusive and elitist that line of thinking is if you plan on teaching EFL to students who aren't likely to be white. |
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rtm
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks |
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| blackrosewitch121 wrote: |
| Thank you |
OP, although you seem to want to close this thread, I'd like to add one thing first. You seem to be assuming that the problems your boyfriend is encountering are due to race. In actuality, there are other (and likely larger) problems -- his lack of a BA and his passport from a "non-anglophone" country -- that will limit his opportunities to teach EFL. We aren't disagreeing with you that he's a native speaker or saying that he can't be a good teacher; what we're informing you about is common visa and hiring regulations. There might be places that do not have as stringent regulations about where one's passport is from or whether one has a BA or not, so if I were you, I'd leave this thread open or maybe make a new one asking about those issues, rather than about being 'Asian' or anything about race. If you are specifically interested in working in Asia (as, if I recall correctly, your OP suggested), you might want to post in the general Asia forum. |
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