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We need the apostrophe and in the right place.
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 12:36 pm    Post subject: We need the apostrophe and in the right place. Reply with quote

If you disagree, look at this headline from a Scottish paper.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14476632.Private_school_leavers__ball_axed_due_to_drunken_pupils/?ref=mr&lp=13
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 6:46 pm    Post subject: Apostrophe catastrophe Reply with quote

Its amazing the number of people who cant use apostrophe's correctly nowaday's. It seem's teacher's dont teach kid's how to spell or punctuate any more. Crying or Very sad
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Apostrophe catastrophe Reply with quote

grahamb wrote:
Its amazing the number of people who cant use apostrophe's correctly nowaday's. It seem's teacher's dont teach kid's how to spell or punctuate any more. Crying or Very sad

Thank you, Graham. At least somebody was amused by the Herald headline. Perhaps I should have indicated that it was correct but could have been eye-watering had the apostrophe been in the wrong place.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst the passive voice is to be avoided, cliches are old hat and its important to use apostrophe's (and adverb's) right, note the following:

Quote:
Private school leavers' ball axed due to drunken pupils


Quote:
A leaver's ball for the pupils was scheduled to take place in the capital's upmarket Roxburghe Hotel


Clearly a typo. The Roxburghe's a 3* at best.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Join me in the World Society For The Abolition of Apostrophe's.

Fees' are moderate.
Reduction's for Pensioners'
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 2:55 pm    Post subject: Abolition of Apostrophe's Reply with quote

Scot47 is clearly a Germanophile!
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apostrohobe.
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Join me in the World Society For The Abolition of Apostrophe's.

Fees' are moderate.
Reduction's for Pensioners'

Why? The only reason I can imagine is that it would simplify English for foreigners and lazy natives. Why stop there? Let´s eliminate the 3rd person S and if we say cut/cut/ cut, why not think/think/think/ Confused
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Tesco, Britain's biggest supermarket, is in a class of is own when it comes to apostrophe abuse. You'd think that someone among its half a million employees would know better than to put up saying "Kids toys". It ges worse in the clothing department: a simple "Kids" seems fair enough, but the signs nearby are a scarcely credible "Mens" and "Womens". The meaning may be clear but the sloppiness demonstrated by this insult to the intelligence of its customers makes you wonder what else the company gets wrong. Sell-by dates? Prices?"
http://www.theguardian.com/media/mind-your-language/2013/aug/16/mind-your-language-apostrophe
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaky

Apostrophes are BAD. That is why.
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Shaky

Apostrophes are BAD. That is why.

Good Lord! You sound like my father. Do you also disapprove of apostrophes in other languages? French and Italian use them, don´t they? Where do you stand on accents like the ñ in Spanish? Or the double dot above words in German. I doubt that their eradication would impede comprehension.
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Double dot" ? It is called an umlaut. Diacriticals of any kind are an abomination and contrary to the laws of God and Nature. I especially disapprove of the circumflex. Grave and acute accents are almost as bad. The tilde should be extirpated.
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
"Double dot" ? It is called an umlaut. Diacriticals of any kind are an abomination and contrary to the laws of God and Nature. I especially disapprove of the circumflex. Grave and acute accents are almost as bad. The tilde should be extirpated.

Yes, the umlaut. They use it in Spanish, too. What other simpifications would you favour? For example, double consonants in English. Tomorow instead of tomorrow? Much simpler, isn´t it? BTW God and Nature? Why not god and nature?
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In sensible languages like German all nouns are capitalised. Milgov in Germany after 1945 (British Administration) seriously proposed that German orthography should be reformed and that all nouns should be written with lower-case initial letters. Some looney in BritMilGov had figured out that Germans are autocratic because they were taught to capitalise nouns.

And you thought that scot47 was crackers ?
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

German nouns aren't written with capital letters now, are they? You mean the first letter, language guru that you are.

German's also moved on since 1945.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_orthography_reform_of_1996

But why is it that German uses a capital letter at the start of every noun?

Ich trinke Bier. (I drink beer).

There is no word "bier" in German. Use lowercase by mistake, and not one person will misunderstand. To say that German is a sensible language, which is a daft statement anyway when no language is non-sensible, shows some sort of bizarre political correctness. Only real Germans or robots accept their language without question.
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