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sicklyman
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:26 am Post subject: KFUPM hiring |
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I see on the job board here that KFUPM are hiring.
http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/index.cgi?read=41833
Anyone know what the salary range might be?
Just wondering if it's slipped into single K figures  |
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scot47
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Policy used to be "Apply and if we offer a job we will tell you how much." That may still be the same. The super-efficient Indian who organised recruitment has been retired and things are not done so smoothly. Still a good place to work for the medium or long term. Holidays that are worth having.
4 hours teaching daily on the PYP. Two semesters a year of 15 or 16 weeks. |
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currentaffairs
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| They have a funny system whereby you have to sign the contract agreeing to the salary offer before the interview. Money was average. Nice place to work, though. |
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sicklyman
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| Holidays that are worth having. |
if you can afford to take them. Not sure the salary stretches to saving and spending 2 months every summer travelling the world or being temporarily resident in the UK, for example. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Adherents of the God Mammon can teach in the summer for extra dosh. There are also evening classes for those who feel that money is more important than time.
Maximisation of income at the expense of other factors is not a path I would recommend, in KSA or anywhere else. It will lead to tears. |
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danshengou
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| sicklyman wrote: |
| scot47 wrote: |
| Holidays that are worth having. |
if you can afford to take them. Not sure the salary stretches to saving and spending 2 months every summer travelling the world or being temporarily resident in the UK, for example. |
Well said. EFL jobs are a double-edged sword with respect to vacation. On the one hand, having a lot of vacation seems nice. But when there's no option to work year-round, it can work against teachers who need or want to stay and work. If you fit this description, ask if the company (uni) offers overtime or cash in lieu of holidays, etc. This can add another 20% or more to your salary and prevent you from having to 'waste' money traveling due to a forced holiday. |
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scot47
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There is no compulsion to take the holidays. Nor do you have to leave the Kingdom for some exotic locale full of dancing girls and dodgy bars !
Some people have a base outside KSA. Mine was called "Home". |
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danshengou
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
There is no compulsion to take the holidays. Nor do you have to leave the Kingdom for some exotic locale full of dancing girls and dodgy bars !
Some people have a base outside KSA. Mine was called "Home". |
The OP seems to be suggesting there are those who don't have a 'home' anymore back 'home' and would like to work year round but can't due to no work available during the 'holidays'. And while picking up a side-job 'back home' might be possible, the schedule my not align well, etc. Year-round teaching might qualify as an oxymoron given that one of the main reasons most of us get into this is for the vacation and travel, etc. But not everyone can afford to think that way.
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desert_traveller
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what are you guys talking about? as far as i know, all holidays at kfupm are paid. you get paid for 12 months. you pocket 12 monthly salaries. you can take about 20 weeks paid leave. that's what all my friends working at kfupm were raving about. as for the salary itself, mediocre. low 10k's, i'd assume. benefits not so good, either. dodgy accommodation. nice campus, though. breezy schedule, reasonable students (by saudi standards). no idea what they offer for families. anyone?
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danshengou
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| desert_traveller wrote: |
| what are you guys talking about? as far as i know, all holidays at kfupm are paid. you get paid for 12 months. you pocket 12 monthly salaries. you can take about 20 weeks paid leave. that's what all my friends working at kfupm were raving about. as for the salary itself, mediocre. low 10k's, i'd assume. benefits not so good, either. dodgy accommodation. nice campus, though. breezy schedule, reasonable students (by saudi standards). no idea what they offer to families. anyone? |
Low 10's might be enough to get you a bit of traction in SE Asia or some other low-cost locale during the off-weeks. But it does not sound like a gig where one could save a lot of money, especially since the salary is already low. If you had OT and worked the summers, maybe it could be worth it. Otherwise, you will be living the escapist lifestyle and banking the same as you could just working full-time in Vietnam for example. To each their own, but the other 7 months could be better spent elsewhere than in some dodgy flat in KSA. Move someplace you wouldn't mind being most of the year, where you can save a $1000 a month with less hassle. That'd be a far better deal I think. |
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currentaffairs
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| You would not get 20 weeks of paid leave. You have admin weeks and exam marking after the classes have finished. The main break in the summer is around 8 weeks, for example. There are short mid-term breaks and another break for Eid. |
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danshengou
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| currentaffairs wrote: |
| You would not get 20 weeks of paid leave. You have admin weeks and exam marking after the classes have finished. The main break in the summer is around 8 weeks, for example. There are short mid-term breaks and another break for Eid. |
All the more reason to pass on that one then. |
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scot47
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You should remember what the judge in Alabama said to the boy he was sentencing, "99 years - and just you remember son, everyone has got to be somewhere !"
I had various gigs in Saudi over a period of years. KFUPM was the best by far. |
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danshengou
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| scot47 wrote: |
You should remember what the judge in Alabama said to the boy he was sentencing, "99 years - and just you remember son, everyone has got to be somewhere !"
I had various gigs in Saudi over a period of years. KFUPM was the best by far. |
Well, 10k is nothing to smile about in 2017, and certainly nothing to move to Saudi for. Any idea what they were paying 20 years ago? |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| danshengou wrote: |
| Well, 10k is nothing to smile about in 2017, and certainly nothing to move to Saudi for. Any idea what they were paying 20 years ago? |
There's no one-size-fits-all salary; it's based on qualifications/verified previous teaching experience. |
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