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sammysez
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 Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:55 pm Post subject: Are ALL Teachers waiting on salaries from MOE?? |
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It is true that all teachers at various cities and different schools/contracts are ALL waiting on their salaries from the MOE?
Our understanding in our city is the company hasn't paid us because the MOE has not paid them.
They are saying this has something to do with Ramadan, but I'm not sure, because previous months it wasn't Ramadan with some of the other schools. What does anyone know about teachers being stuck in KSA without salaries? |
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I-forgot
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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It happened last year as well. And it is nothing to do with Ramadan. Ramadan usually means you get paid earlier, not later.
The economic situation is bad. There isn't enough money. Contractors to the government (not just in the education sector) are getting less money and they are getting it later. Given that nobody has ever got to grips with the concept if cash flow, this causes significant problems - many companies don't have enough money to pay staff. They rarely have enough will to pay staff either. |
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Karitos
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Are ALL Teachers waiting on salaries from MOE?? |
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| sammysez wrote: |
It is true that all teachers at various cities and different schools/contracts are ALL waiting on their salaries from the MOE?
Our understanding in our city is the company hasn't paid us because the MOE has not paid them.
They are saying this has something to do with Ramadan, but I'm not sure, because previous months it wasn't Ramadan with some of the other schools. What does anyone know about teachers being stuck in KSA without salaries? |
I work at a private school, and we were already paid for June and July. I heard from someone at the school that government salaries were to be paid June 18th, but whether that was hearsay or something more concrete, I have no idea. |
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scot47
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| Rumours abound in the country. the French used an expression when they were cstill a colonial power - "Telephone Arabe" to account for the proliferation of stories in an otherwise closed society. KSA is not so diffrent. |
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voyagerksa
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| I-forgot wrote: |
It happened last year as well. And it is nothing to do with Ramadan. Ramadan usually means you get paid earlier, not later.
The economic situation is bad. There isn't enough money. Contractors to the government (not just in the education sector) are getting less money and they are getting it later. Given that nobody has ever got to grips with the concept if cash flow, this causes significant problems - many companies don't have enough money to pay staff. They rarely have enough will to pay staff either. |
The Saudis are not being honest about how desperate their situation is, either with themselves or with foreigners, teachers, etc.  Their almost sole financial income is oil, which now appears to be permanently cheap. |
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sammysez
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:14 am Post subject: Hurry up and wait |
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| Would you leave the country without salaries? |
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I-forgot
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| voyagerksa wrote: |
The Saudis are not being honest about how desperate their situation is, either with themselves or with foreigners, teachers, etc. Their almost sole financial income is oil, which now appears to be permanently cheap. |
Yes. Exactly. |
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I-forgot
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Hurry up and wait |
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| Would you leave the country without salaries? |
I didn't. I got paid eventually. But I could afford to wait.
Other people left. They were promised that the money would be sent to them. They are still waiting.
Your call - how much do they owe you versus how much does it cost you to stay in country - remember that you are still costing them money in terms of accommodation, health insurance, iqama etc. That works in your favour but few companies realise that until your iqama comes up for renewal. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| Other than QEHC, which contracting companies have pay issues? |
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cnthaiksarok
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Hmph, I just got a raise along with my annual bonus.
Ka ching |
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bigdurian
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| cnthaiksarok wrote: |
Hmph, I just got a raise along with my annual bonus.
Ka ching |
Isn't that normal?? |
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Mitch10
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Hurry up and wait |
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| I-forgot wrote: |
| sammysez wrote: |
| Would you leave the country without salaries? |
I didn't. I got paid eventually. But I could afford to wait.
Other people left. They were promised that the money would be sent to them. They are still waiting.
Your call - how much do they owe you versus how much does it cost you to stay in country - remember that you are still costing them money in terms of accommodation, health insurance, iqama etc. That works in your favour but few companies realise that until your iqama comes up for renewal. |
I'm curious to know what company was this for - QEHC?
Last year, did the people that stayed in the country get paid rather than those who travelled and got paid into their bank accounts?
They have promised people that they will be paid into their bank accounts now. |
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I-forgot
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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I know it has happened with QEHC, EdEx and Al Khaleej. I suspect it has happened at other companies too but I haven't heard anything recently.
I am not certain what you mean by stay versus travel. I was talking about stay versus final exit.
If you leave on a final exit visa, you can kiss the money goodbye. |
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cnthaiksarok
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| bigdurian wrote: |
| cnthaiksarok wrote: |
Hmph, I just got a raise along with my annual bonus.
Ka ching |
Isn't that normal?? |
Well, yeah - thereby countering the assumption of the OP. |
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currentaffairs
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| There have been a lot of problems this year. Not just with the contractors but within the Ministry. We had the complete freeze on direct hire jobs across the country and I hear that it is going to probably continue although nothing official has been said. No pay raises this year and problems with other payments. |
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