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siologen



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:04 pm    Post subject: re: women to be allowed to drive in saudi arabia Reply with quote

Found via newsnow, and it is breaking on all the news sites:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41408195

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/26/saudi-arabias-king-issues-order-allowing-women-to-drive

Women working in retail was mentioned on these boards a while back, and now this.

Cheers all.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just heard this announced a few hours ago! The NY Times article includes a photo showing a woman driving with obviously impaired peripheral vision. I wonder how that issue will be dealt with? Ah well, that is but a minor detail, compared to the historic nature of this change in women's lives.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not this string again. Give it up Guys and Gals. This is becoming boring. If you want to drive as a woman than don't come to Saudi Arabia. It"s as simple as that.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grendal wrote:
Not this string again. Give it up Guys and Gals. This is becoming boring. If you want to drive as a woman than don't come to Saudi Arabia. It"s as simple as that.

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I'm afraid the king disagrees with you. He has signed a royal decree allowing women to drive beginning in June 2018.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow

well maybe I should read the papers more. Last time I turned on the news was in 1987. Hmmmm....

Does the world still spin in the same direction?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One wonders if it will go into effect... and for how many? Many families will not allow their females the freedom.

Another question is if and when it would extend to expat women.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can in every other ****ing country on earth, so why not here?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's part of vision (hindsight) 2030

It will probably be delayed, put off, forgotten about, put on the back burner, procrastinated, ignored, and then rethought about till then. (not necessarily in that order)

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ps I peeked outside and noticed the sun still sets in the west, so I guess the world is turning the same way according to scientists. I still think the world is flat and the sun turns around it
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:59 am    Post subject: re: in my hope of hopes.... Reply with quote

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They can in every other ****ing country on earth, so why not here?


Agreed. Women drive in other hot countries or parts of those countries with a desert climate.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: re: in my hope of hopes.... Reply with quote

siologen wrote:
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They can in every other ****ing country on earth, so why not here?


Agreed. Women drive in other hot countries or parts of those countries with a desert climate.

Not sure what being a hot desert has to do with it... but... the first thing that I would do when I arrived in any other Gulf country was get the local license (quick and easy) and buy a car. In Oman, I had a car within a couple days of arrival. Almost as quickly in both Kuwait and the UAE...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This obsession with the horseless carriage is a passing fad.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:23 pm    Post subject: re: in the past... Reply with quote

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Not sure what being a hot desert has to do with it...


VS, IIRC there was one cleric who deemed it not safe for Saudi women if they broke down in the car in the desert alone. Presumably at risk of rape or robbery from marauding hordes of men Question Exclamation Surprised Not sure if it is the link/s below, but it was very similar!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-women-driving-islamic-grand-mufti-sheikh-exposed-to-evil-rights-a6978621.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/23/saudi-cleric-saad-al-hijri-banned-woman-driving-cars-quarter-brain

Women drivers seem to do just fine in the other gulf states, and the hotter, drier states of the USA....who'd 'a thunk it!!!! Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably more dangerous to break down in one of the cities. LOL

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AGoodStory wrote:
The NY Times article includes a photo showing a woman driving with obviously impaired peripheral vision. I wonder how that issue will be dealt with?

Although wearing a niqab is cultural and not a religious mandate, it's unlikely the Saudi government would prohibit those women who wear one from having it down over their faces while driving. (If other GCC countries have such a regulation, not all of them seem to enforce it.)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject: re: in oh-man... Reply with quote

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(If other GCC countries have such a regulation, not all of them seem to enforce it.)


An interesting point. AFAIK, in the Sultanate of Oman it is a government rule that women in banks, colleges, and offices, have to leave their face uncovered. There may be some wiggle room, but I do remember someone telling me it was a decree from Sultan Qaboos and the Shura council.


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