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Would a teachers` association work?
Yes
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No
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Don`t know
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 33%  [ 1 ]
ET will have taken over all ELT by then
33%
 33%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:55 pm    Post subject: Teachers` Association Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:42 am    Post subject: TEFL TEFL TEFL Reply with quote

Then again don`t bother. Have a TEFL house party. We can talk about anything.
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justme



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have little faith in associations and things that involve meetings and people attempting to reach agreements in order to take action.

On the other hand, something might be better than nothing.
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calsimsek



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old labour left in me, still kicking. Go all the way. UNION. Mad
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gelin



Joined: 09 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would never get "permission" to open one. There is Egitim-Sen who were going to have to close down for trying to stick to principles. It just doesn't work in this Turkey.
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justme



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kind of thought a proper union might be illegal...

What about an improper one then? I mean, an informal gathering of like-minded people working to inform newcomers and pressure language schools to be better?

Or is that just too hippie?
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dmb



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isnt it the job of the DOS to look after his or her teachers?
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Golightly



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
Isnt it the job of the DOS to look after his or her teachers?

Is it? I thought it was more akin to herding, and making sure the drunks and nutters weren't acting too drunk or nutty Twisted Evil
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teacherdude



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:57 am    Post subject: :-) Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
Isnt it the job of the DOS to look after his or her teachers?


I used to think that at ET...BOY did my eyes get opened... Very Happy

TD
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TeachEnglish



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh oh... you said "ET"... I wonder who will reply to that post? HEHE Laughing Laughing
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justme



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phooooooone hooooome.....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeachEnglish wrote:
Uh oh... you said "ET"... I wonder who will reply to that post? HEHE Laughing Laughing


ET Calling

Never having been a DOS myself but having worked under loads of different ones I would like to comment.

Ages ago EL Gazette did a story about typical DOSes and they asked some TEFL celebrities such as Mario Rivoludicrous about typical DOSes and they had a great time taking the mick out of ''the DOS who didn't like herself'' or the DOS who ''couldn't control the teachers.'' The gist of the article was that teachers were largely under the control of DOSes who for the most part had problems.

At ET our DOSes (that is what they are even if they are not called it) are DOSes for different reasons but the overiding ones are to get a decent monthly salary, get out of the classroom, to be able to put DOS on their CV, a stepping stone to something better amongst other spurious reasons. There is no training, no checks and balances and even if a DOS has the dip -so what. The Dip has no management or personnel content and is a qualification for a teacher not a manager.

At ET one of the things the DOS has to do is teach classes on Saturday and Sunday mornings when the teacher has had too much the night before and not turned up.
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Faustino



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember, this guy doesn't even work at English Time...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/faustino/31-2.jpg

Take his advice with as big a pinch of salt as you feel necessary. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work for English Time.
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thorn yeti



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then why did you tell Faustino that you didnt work there? Just curious.
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