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GoingSaudy



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:28 am    Post subject: Saudi or Oman? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I am requesting some expert opinion about making a choice between a job at a financial institution in Saudi Arabia and teaching at SQU in Oman. The Saudi Job is offering about US $70K all inclusive while the SQU job is offering about US $45K plus accommodation. Both jobs come with the usual annual paid vacation. Naturally, I prefer SQU job with its academic freedom but a quick check of the cost of living comparison shows that it is far more expensive to live in muscat than Jeddah. I would like to have your opinion on the relative cost of living for a family of 4 in the two countries
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't help you out, but I am curious to know if these positions are for teaching English. The 45K offered by SQU seems higher than I thought.
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crocus



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoingSaudy says SQU pays about $45k plus accommodation. If you take the top amount the Language Centre pays its teachers - as 'Assistant Lecturers' - + travel allowance for those who live off campus + an education allowance for two of the children who may be at international schools in Oman then this can well come to this amount.

If this $45k doesn't include an educational allowance, then he can't be going to work in the Language Centre - no 'ordinary' teacher / programme co-ordinator earns this much.

GoingSaudy: with a family along, I wouldn't even consider Saudi. You're right, Oman is more expensive, but consider the quality of life between the two - Oman wins by several heads! You probably won't save money, however, which you would do in Saudi.

All the best whatever you decide.
Crocus
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure where this 45K number comes from either. In ESL, most teachers with MA and experience would be getting around $25K + benefits.

And I wonder at the assumption of 'academic freedom' at SQU. It is certainly a much freer lifestyle, but in most departments it is teach to the text. (not all, but many) I would certainly consider it a more pleasant place to be all around, but I am looking at it as a single female. (and if you have kids, Oman is very child friendly...)

VS
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GoingSaudy



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the academic freedom I was refering to is in comparison to the saudi bank job. As a teacher I believe you have a relative freedom and flexibility of your time ie not necesarily (8-5) kind of thing everyday.

Basically the SQU package includes- a basic salary of 1030+universityallowance+utility allowance+rarity allowance+transportation allowance (if off campus)+education allowance

Going by the previous posts I see that Oman is family friendly but you will not save much - well I will certainly like to save some money Smile

What can an expat's wife do while in Saudi or what do expat wife do?
How easy/difficult/impossible will be to get a job (She is a well qualified and experienced IT) .
My other question is that can an epax's wife travel alone from Saudi to say for instance Dubai or she has to have a company on such a trip and how often can such a trip be made?

Thanks in Advance for all info shared, we are hoping that this will work out for the best for us!
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crocus



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoingSaudy - please put me out of my suspense. You CAN'T be an EFL teacher??? Rarity allowance? Mmmm - again, not EFL. Wink

Hope you make the best decision for your family.

Crocus
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GoingSaudy



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crocus - not not an EFL teacher Smile - I was kinda reluctant cos this is an EFL forum but still very much a teacher nonetheless Smile Smile

Saudi veterans hellooo!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rarity allowance... wow, that's a new one!! Laughing We have quite a few non-ESL/EFL teachers who come on here, so don't worry... we usually try to be helpful anyway.

Lots and lots of restrictions on the wives in Saudi, so make sure that your wife can handle that issue. She certainly has a better chance at getting a job in Oman... though it may not be exactly what she would want. But, at least she would have complete freedom of movement both within and to/from the country.

Hopefully a Saudi person will come on and give you some info on Jeddah...

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Gordon



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoingSaudy wrote:
Crocus - not not an EFL teacher Smile - I was kinda reluctant cos this is an EFL forum but still very much a teacher nonetheless Smile Smile

Saudi veterans hellooo!!!


Didn't think it was in EFL. You had my hopes up that SQU was opening up the vault for us peons.
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abufletcher



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe people who have lived in Saudi absolutely hated it but that typically because you get the fullest helping of everything related to being an expat: the most intense cultural experience, the most start separation of expats and locals, not to mention the wierdest bunch of expats I've ever met. I lived in the Asir for about a year and found it fascinating but then it was really more like being in Yemen (wild baboons and men with flowers in their hair). I don't think I would have enjoyed any job in the eastern regions nearly as much. Jeddah might be liveable however.

As a family man however I would definitely stay away from Saudi Arabia. I was on a single status contract during the time I lived in Abha. Your wife will enjoy her l