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srtab



Joined: 16 Oct 2005
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Location: Arizona

PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:55 am    Post subject: do you really need TEFL cert? Reply with quote

Hi, I've been reading lots of posts and come across different information. Also checked out www.teachermexconnect.com. It sounds like it makes things easier if you get certification (also for the job finding help?)

I have a BA in Secondary Education (Spanish) in Arizona. I'm about to finish my first year teaching. I'm going to teach high school here for one more year (so my cerfificate will be permanent, although I've heard a US teaching certificate doesn't matter in Mexico).

I am thinking about job hunting in on my next spring break (March 2007) to try and set up a job for Summer/Fall 2007. I don't want to leave my job here unless I have a decent teaching job lined up for me. I won't be able to take a TEFL course in Mexico before then.

So, I guess it comes back to, how necessary/helpful is the certification to find a job? I would be interested in getting it, but I want to know I would have a guarenteed decent job.

Thanks for any help guys! This forum is great!
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Ben Round de Bloc



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: do you really need TEFL cert? Reply with quote

srtab wrote:
I am thinking about job hunting in on my next spring break (March 2007) to try and set up a job for Summer/Fall 2007. I don't want to leave my job here unless I have a decent teaching job lined up for me. I won't be able to take a TEFL course in Mexico before then.

So, I guess it comes back to, how necessary/helpful is the certification to find a job? I would be interested in getting it, but I want to know I would have a guarenteed decent job.

I think a lot depends on what you consider a decent job in Mexico. If I were in your situation, I'd be a bit concerned about the time gap between spring break, when you plan to job hunt, and summer/fall, when you want to start the job. I could be wrong here, but I don't think there are a lot of schools that would guarantee you a job that far in advance, at least not in the part of the country where I am. If they did, I suspect that many of the specifics regarding the job could change greatly during that amount of time.

Based on what I've observed in the city where I am, I'd say that your degree in education and your experience teaching a foreign language would be helpful. However, you'd still be competing for the better jobs against people who have training and/or experience specifically in teaching English as a foreign language. You'd probably have to be here teaching for a while before working your way up to the better jobs.
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
Posts: 3484
Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: do you really need TEFL cert? Reply with quote

I agree with BRdB. If a school has a position available, they will likely want to fill it ASAP. If you aren't available for three months, and the next teacher to walk in looking for work can start right away, they're likely to hire the one ready to begin.
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srtab



Joined: 16 Oct 2005
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Location: Arizona

PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, it sounds like, I should job hunt over the summer?

Is it easier then, to take a TEFL course and have that help find me a teaching position?

By decent job, I mean that it's a job with ok pay (I understand that I don't have a lot of experience and none in teaching English), but more important that I'm not miserable with a crazy schedule. It would be nice to work somewhere that I was supported with some kind of curriculum/textbook. It sounds like there are places that don't do that?

Also, would I have a good chance of getting a job somewhere I wanted? I'm thinking of Guadalajara, but I'm open. Just don't want to live in BFE or DF really.
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BFE isn't in Mexico, so no problem there. Smile
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grahamcito



Joined: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 90
Location: Guadalajara

PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 10:52 pm    Post subject: ? Reply with quote

What�s BFE?

acronymfinder.com says it stands for "Bum Freak Egypt (polite form)" Shocked

srtab - Guadalajara is a good place to look for work, there are plenty of opportunities and it�s a very pleasant place to live.

But what do you mean by "ok pay"? English teachers in Mexico generally work hard for very basic pay (especially when starting out).

And about TEFL: in some countries in Latin America, TEFL is essential; in Mexico, you can often find work without it, but it�s difficult and less reliable. The question is "Would I feel comfortable working for an employer who didn�t require me to have it?"
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cwc



Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:07 am    Post subject: stooped question Reply with quote

grahamcito wrote:
"Would I feel comfortable working for an employer who didn�t require me to have it?"

What does that have to do with it? One�s qualifications to teach come from within, especially in Mexico. One should be able to judge the job based on a million other things like pay, facilities, curriculum support, office support, hours, principal�s attitude, etc...
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Grahamcitos's opinions best apply for people who have nothing by way of training or a related degree against those who only have a TEFL course behind them. Green or a lighter shade of green.

Then you can ask yourself about employers and their interior decorating tastes. Thrown to the wolves with not much more than a smirk and a dictionary is not an ideal.

The OP shouldn't have any trouble finding work...maybe not in business EFL, but there are plenty of kids out there to teach. Since DF is out, you wouldn't be looking at the most demanding jobs anyway.

What is BFE?
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Since DF is out, you wouldn't be looking at the most demanding jobs anyway.

Question
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