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Capergirl

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1232 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:58 am Post subject: Cheating and Plagiarism |
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Q: How do you deal with cheating and/or plagiarism in the ESL/EFL classroom?
Although I haven't had any students try to cheat on a test or exam (yet), my students are bad for cheating on CALL exercises...no matter how closely I watch them. It is a minor problem when compared to plagiarism, however. This past week, my students (intermediate-level young adults) handed in writing assignments that were obviously plagiarized from the internet. I read some of the sentences from the essays and asked my budding authors to explain them to me. Needless to say, they hadn't a clue what half the words meant, nor have they ever composed anything nearly as eloquent in class. I talked with them about plagiarism and let them know that not only do teachers frown upon it, but it is also illegal in Canada. They reminded me that I had said it was okay to get information from the internet for their essays. I said, "Yes, but you have to put it in your own words. You cannot copy someone else's work and then attach your name to it." They said, "Oh".
Have any of you had experiences with cheating/plagiarism your classes and if so, how did you handle it? |
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aaronschwartz
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 145 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:10 am Post subject: |
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"Do Chinese Students Cheat?" on the China Job Related Forum hashed this one out ad nauseum. This is one of those historical MW posts with Dragon. |
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aaronschwartz
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 145 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Another classic MW/Dragon thread in that forum is "What about Plagiarism in Chinese Schools?" It got so hot it got locked! |
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Wolf

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 1245 Location: Middle Earth
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:00 am Post subject: |
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I say from day one that I won't accept it. i go through what plagarism is. I give out 0s on assignments until they get the picture (I give out little assignments every week in my writing classes, and big assingments are mentioned in weekly venom - filled antiplagarism speeches.)
I belive that I had pretty good sucess (not perfect but not bad for the PRC either.) "Zero" tolerance from day one.
I got stuff copied from the net as well. I once got a movie review instead of a book report (zero), and when you load an English webpage in China sometimes there are ramdom Chinese characters on the screen - I've got assignments with them as well (zero.) I once got six copies of the same assignment - four word for word, one partial, and one with a few words changed (but same mistakes). A bit of math for you: 6*0=0.
I made it clear to my uni that that's what I'll do. They can just go over my head and change marks, but that's out of my hands, I did my part in trying to stamp out this unwholsome practice (how are Chinese academics to compete with the world if they never learn not to plagarize?)
Yeah, we talk about this in the China forum a lot. I'm one of the lucky ones - check out the exam proctoring stories (I don't give in class exams. There's no point - I just give a final research paper to write.) |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 3:39 am Post subject: |
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cheating is a way of life in the Gulf, it's called helping my friend.
I recently came across cheating in the 21st century. My students were taking photograhs of their papers with their mobile phones and sending them to their friends. |
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Lucy Snow

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 218 Location: US
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:50 am Post subject: |
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I once knew a professor in the US who called plagarism the "national sport of Japan."
I had a friend who was teaching at a university here in Hungary, and she said that the problem is partly cultural. Students feel it would be presumptuous to change the wording of someone who is older or an expert in their field, so they just copy everything down word for word. Her students never really understood why she found plagarism unacceptable.
As for cheating during exams, I tried to always reserve the largest classroom I could get and seat the students as far away from each other as possible. During the exam I never took my eyes off of them.
I think Wolf has the best solution--make it clear you won't tolerate it, fail the students who do it anyway, and if the administration changes the grades, well, you did your best. |
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aaronschwartz
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 145 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:58 am Post subject: |
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MW
Joined: 03 Apr 2003
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Location: China
Posted: Sun May 04, 2003 10:27 pm Post subject: Do Chinese Students cheat?
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Sascha Matuszak, a Foreign Expert from Minnesota, U.S.A reports that �Cheating is a Way of Life in China, Guanxi rules in China�s Schools.� Sacha reports that his Chinese university students engaged in widespread cheating on tests, i.e. only six essays were produced by sixty students due to sharing information during the test process. It is also claimed that the students not only used texts verbatim, but were impervious to corrective remarks about the evils of plagiarism. (Matuszak (9/11/01)
On 12/26/02 a foreign English teacher ([email protected]) published a letter at www.eslcafe.com complaining of widespread cheating on tests and tolerance by public university administrators in China.
In Guangzhou, secret video tapes caught students using various methods to cheat on an exam while the exam proctors or monitors intentionally looked the other way or gave the students extra time to complete the exam. Students were observed passing notes, making gestures to each other, discussing the test in hushed voices, and even exchanging answer sheets. (People�s Daily, (7/11/00), �College Exam Cheating Operations Uncovered�) And in another cheating scandal from the same Province, thirty-nine students and five teachers were accused of a scheme where the teachers took the test first and then sold the correct answers to students. (People�s Daily, (7/15/00)
It was reported that in Shanxi one student held up her exam paper for the person behind to copy and the teacher looked the other way. In another incident involving student cheaters in a music department, the school administration was furious with the teachers who exposed the cheating rather than with the cheating students. (www.china.org.cn, (6/3/02)
In Henan Province in the Fall of 2002 a professional test taking surrogate complained that he has been required by social expectancy and political pressure �guanxi� to take the Band 4 and Band 6 English tests more several times for friends and allies who knew that they would fail the examination if they were required to sit for it themselves. The test monitor not only cooperated in this fraud, but often was the one making all of the arrangements for its success. (source: author's personal experience)
In November 2002, as soon as a teacher left an examination room, the students starting sharing test answers. (21st Century, (11/4/02)
The U.S. based Educational Testing Service canceled its GRE Computer Science test in China in August 2002 after an earlier decision to suspend the text due to widespread cheating. (International Herald Tribune, (10/15/02)
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Yea, this helping my friend is actually one of the more endearing aspects of Saudi society.
Makes life hell for the teacher/examiner though. I prefered the Egyptian and Pakistani primary kids I had in Riyadh, who got annoyed about being copied from until I told them the trick. Put down all the wrong answers, wait till the other bugger's copied them, and then tell me after both papers have been handed in so you get a new one.
At JIC we ban mobile phones in exams. If they bring one to the exam room they get a zero. |
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aaronschwartz
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 145 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:01 am Post subject: |
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MW
Joined: 03 Apr 2003
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Location: China
Posted: Sun May 04, 2003 10:31 pm Post subject: What About Plagiarism in Chinese Schools?
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It was recently discovered that a professor of the Department of Sociology at Peking University had �committed serious plagiarism� in a 1998 book he wrote. Another professor of the College of Computer and Information Engineering at Hefei University of Technology was also found to have �serious cheating� in six of his thesis published in professional journals. (China Daily Hong Kong Edition, (1/24/02)
During the Fall of 2002 at a private business institute in joint venture (Qiang/Wolff, (June 2003), �China ESL: An Industry Run Amuck?�, Progress in Education, Nova Science Publications) with a 2nd tier public university in Shanghai, in a group of 60 third year students there were 6 confirmed instances of flagrant plagiarism. The administration required the students to write a letter of apology and repeat the assignment as the totality of punishment. It was explained that this is the normal method for handling such matters in Chinese middle schools and to impose any harsher punishment may jeopardize the joint venture continuing viability. (source: author's personal experience) A second teacher at the same institution also experienced plageriasm from two students. The teacher simply required the students to re-write their papers.
In a second incident during the Fall of 2002 at a private joint venture with another 2nd tier public university in Shanghai, (Qiang/Wolff (6/03) in a group of 56 first year students there were 8 confirmed instances of flagrant plagiarism. The administration required the students to write a letter of apology and repeat the assignment as the totality of punishment. (source: author's personal experience)
On 11/24/02 a letter was published by a foreign teacher at www.eslcafe.com complaining of widespread plagiarism in a public university in China.
On 14/03 Richard of Va., U.S.A. ([email protected]) filed a report at www.eslcafe.com about his experience with plagiarism while teaching in China, commiserating with another teacher who also had a similar complaint about rampant plagiarism in China. |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Stephen, how do you ban mobiles at JIC? The only way I can think of is to give a body search on entry to the exam room |
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Capergirl

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1232 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Banning cell phones shouldn't be that hard, unless you have a very large group and it is difficult to monitor them at all times during testing. My students are well-aware of my "no cell phone" policy in class (test or not) and they turn off their phones and put them in their backpacks before class commences. These students, who are from the Gulf area, have also told me that cheating by cell phone is very popular in their native country, something that wouldn't have even occurred to me had they not told me.
@Wolf...I like your zero tolerance policy. (6*0=0...you're too funny, bud ) This is actually the first time I've encountered blatent plagiarism in my class so I tried not to go into a tizzy about it. I defined plagiarism for the students and informed them that plagiarized work would not be accepted. They are currently re-writing their papers. They are probably a bit more concerned about my disapproval than students normally would be because I am required to hand over a progress report to the Coast Guard about their classroom performance. Their future career is on the line, so there can be no messing around. However, from now on, plagiarism will be discussed with all new students at the onset of their ESL program and I will institute a similar "zero" tolerance policy.  |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 2:04 am Post subject: |
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If they are seen to have a mobile phone after they have come in the room, then they are asked to hand in their paper and leave.
This time I wasn't proctoring but last semester two students managed to pick up their phones when I was standing right next to them, so they both got zeros.
Anybody with a ghutra is looked on with extreme suspicion ever since we caught somebody with an earphone inside a year or two ago. |
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guty

Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 365 Location: on holiday
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Use this experience positively, sometimes the only way to get certain classes to do groupwork is give a test, then leave the room. Students who would never do pairwork suddenly flourish |
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bnix
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 645
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:17 am Post subject: Yeah.Cheating in Saudi. |
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One of my favorite examples in Saudi was during a multiple question exam.Each question had four possible answers.The brightest student decided to "telegraph" the answers to his buddies by stamping his foot once for "a"...twice for "b",etc.Unfortunately, he did not have a good explanation as to why he kept stamping his foot'Oh my teacher...my foot..."
Plagiarism?Once in The Czech Republic,a university student proudly presented me with a copy of O.Henry's "Gift of the Magi". trying to palm it off as her own short story.What,teacher?You mean you have read this one.Oh......sorry!!  |
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Capergirl

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1232 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:40 am Post subject: |
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@bnix...Hey, he stole that stomping thing from Mr. Ed! Actually, your story reminded me of the big controversy in England not too long ago when one of the contestants of the game show Who Wants to be a Millionaire almost got away with a big cheating conspiracy. The cheating was accomplished by someone coughing when the contestant said the correct answer during his deliberation. Hmmm....I don't think it's A....don't think it's B...*cough*....you know, I think I'm gonna go with B. I watched a special on it...pretty blatant cheating.
My Arabic students have actually admitted to cheating and also to helping their buddies cheat on some of their tests in high school. They call it "teamwork".  |
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