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Can I teach abroad with Bipolar mental illness?
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LaMaestraAE



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Can I teach abroad with Bipolar mental illness? Reply with quote

I am interested in getting my TEFL cert. and teaching in a Spanish speaking country. I have a BA in Spanish and have studied in Toledo, Spain, and in Cuernavaca, Mexico. I am on medication and have regular visits to a psychatrist and a psychologist. Is there a TEFL teacher who has mental illness, is on meds, and sees a psychatrist and psychologist?

Maybe I will be better off getting a MA and teaching ESL in the USA. Confused
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plenty of mental illness in the TEFL world but not much chance of affording treatment on a TEFL wage.
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Pollux



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Living in a foreign country can be stressful. Often, there are things we are not used to and it takes time to getting used to them. Unless you're ready to accept the differences, you should think twice. You will have to do the things you're contracted to do and nobody will care if you're able to do it or not. You will have less access to doctors than you have now. On the bright side. having a MA will give you a chance to get better jobs in the future. Bon chance! Very Happy
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
Plenty of mental illness in the TEFL world but not much chance of affording treatment on a TEFL wage.
LaMaestra,

Please ignore this sorry loser. He has the same negative responses to all Newbies. You'll do fine.

The MA in TESOL will qualify you for community college and university ESL teaching in the United States. Community college districts often pay premium salaries (up to $60,000 to $70,000 and more) depending on the state you are in, plus excellent benefits.

And if you're teaching abroad with only a TEFL certificate, you'll be able to pick up your medications with no problem in most countries. Drugs of all kinds are usually much cheaper than in the U.S. Wink
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have worked with a teacher who was on medication for clinical depression. Getting your meds shouldn't be hard, anywhere in the world, but for heaven's sake, check this out in advance. Decide where you'd like to go, and talk to someone who is already there. Have them check availability and cost on exactly what it is that you take.

Another question may be about seeing psychiatrists or psychologists. As well you know, the effectiveness of these professionals depends on communication. Do you have the language skills to see a doctor in your destination of choice? And are good mental health professionals easy to find there? Again, if continuing with this part of your treatment is important to you, you'll want to have these questions answered in advance. (and preferably have a referral for somebody...)

I would think that the second part is more difficult, but not insurmountable.


Best,

Justin
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Calories



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pardon me, but I think psychiatrists are monsters.

Yes of course you can do anything you like, but seriously, medication sucks especially bipolar meds. It changes a person entirely and makes people fat. Why would you do that to yourself? There are plenty of ways to manage bipolarality without psychiatricks.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Tom Cruise. Confused
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Rin



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calories wrote:
Pardon me, but I think psychiatrists are monsters.

Yes of course you can do anything you like, but seriously, medication sucks especially bipolar meds. It changes a person entirely and makes people fat. Why would you do that to yourself? There are plenty of ways to manage bipolarality without psychiatricks.
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What ways would those be oh wise one? Rolling Eyes
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Kaspar Hauser



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry_Cowell wrote:
The MA in TESOL will qualify you for community college and university ESL teaching in the United States. Community college districts often pay premium salaries (up to $60,000 to $70,000 and more) depending on the state you are in, plus excellent benefits.


Are you sure you aren't the one with mental problems, Henry? In what fantasy land can expat ESL teachers have any chance whatever of landing the type of job you describe? Certainly not the USA. For every full-time community college position that becomes open there are hundred, even thousands, of applicants, so the chance of being offered one of these jobs is virtually nil. And $60,000 to $70,000? I'd like to see some support for your wild claims. I think you're doing these newbies a disservice with your constant rosy and totally unrealistic assertions.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaspar Hauser wrote:
[And $60,000 to $70,000? I'd like to see some support for your wild claims. I think you're doing these newbies a disservice with your constant rosy and totally unrealistic assertions.

It's no mystery. And it's not "wild" or "totally unrealistic." If I were living permanently in the U.S., I might be enjoying the very easy working life of a community college ESL instructor. The number of teaching hours is quite attractive, as are the benefits.

In the past, I've been a part-time instructor at my local community college (which is supported by my property taxes). The part-time hourly rate starts at US$65. And the full-time instructors there do indeed make the salaries I posted -- and more. An MA in TESOL is a minimum requirement for all instructors.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kaspar Hauser



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry_Cowell wrote:
In the past, I've been a part-time instructor at my local community college (which is supported by my property taxes). The part-time hourly rate starts at US$65. And the full-time instructors there do indeed make the salaries I posted -- and more. An MA in TESOL is a minimum requirement for all instructors.


Oh, part-time is it? First of all, I find it VERY hard to believe that there are part-time ESL teachers making $65 an hour at community colleges in the USA. And second, even if this were true, it's PART-TIME--maybe six or eight hours a week, maybe eight or nine months a week and NO BENEFITS. How does this add up to $60,000 or $70,000 a year? Could I, a married guy with children, support my family with one of these (imaginary) jobs? I don't think so, and unless you supply some evidence, I will continue to believe that you are delusional.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick look at the North America forum will show you the real face of TEFLing in America and it sure aint like HC says it is.
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cam



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The MA in TESOL will qualify you for community college and university ESL teaching in the United States. Community college districts often pay premium salaries (up to $60,000 to $70,000 and more) depending on the state you are in, plus excellent benefits.


Are you sure that you do not have some mental problems? Where are these ESL jobs? Can you share your resources?
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