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Jetset
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 Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:35 am Post subject: average Polish local wage is? |
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I'm paying someone to set up my summer home in PL.
what does the average student get paid to do a fairly easy 'bitch' job?
From what I remember it was about 7-8 Zl, but my helper wants 10zl? Is this too much?
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Alex Shulgin
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:48 am Post subject: Re: average Polish local wage is? |
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| Jetset wrote: |
I'm paying someone to set up my summer home in PL.
what does the average student get paid to do a fairly easy '*beep*' job?
From what I remember it was about 7-8 Zl, but my helper wants 10zl? Is this too much?
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What is the average local wage? Who cares!
Can you afford to pay 10zl? Yes.
Is the extra 2zl going to make any difference to you? No.
Is it going to make a difference to your employee? Yes.
Is 10zl per hour too much? Just how cheap are you?! |
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Wild Bill
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| Pay the 10zlts. You may make a friend and get a better quality of work. Hell, it's only about 50 cents. |
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Uncle Bob
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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"Is 10zl per hour too much? Just how cheap are you?!"
...strewth... and tell them if they do a good/on-time job there will be a bonus... |
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svenhassel
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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You could probably get away with paying a child 5zl thus saving a fortune in the long run or even better a Roma child, you can find them begging on the streets in most towns and cities, they're absolutely desperate and will probably work for a piece of bread a day costing significantly less than 1 zl, a major saving!!
it sounds like you could really do with some help. |
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Jetset
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| svenhassel wrote: |
| You could probably get away with paying a child 5zl thus saving a fortune in the long run or even better a Roma child, you can find them begging on the streets in most towns and cities, they're absolutely desperate and will probably work for a piece of bread a day costing significantly less than 1 zl, a major saving!! |
An excellent idea, but how many children will it take to lift a 50kg concrete cinderblock? It could be cheaper to hire one adult instead of a few children to do the same job. 
But back to my original question which no-one has answered: what is the average Polish student wage? and what is the legal minimum wage in Poland? |
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svenhassel
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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i know a nurse who makes 800 zl a month after tax deductions doing 12 hour shifts 4 to 5 times a week, that puts her on 6-7 zl an hour. so someone earning 10zl an hour will be a fairly happy employee.
remember you get what you pay for  |
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cezarek
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Nurses get various other benefits, pensions etc. And they work all month. 10zl an hour is a bit cheap. I pay my cleaner 20. |
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Pollux
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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10zl an hour is a bit cheap. I pay my cleaner 20.
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The going rate for house help in Warsaw is 10 zl. There are plenty of Polish, Ukranian, or Russian women who are willing to clean up your mess and cook you a meal for that.
At the countryside you might want to pay per job since their clock is a little bit different. I'd pay 10 zl. if you think they will do a good job. |
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Alex Shulgin
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Jetset wrote: |
| But back to my original question which no-one has answered: what is the average Polish student wage? and what is the legal minimum wage in Poland? |
Fine, be like that. Legal minimum wage in Poland (as of 01/01/06) is 899PLN per month.
Happy now your question has been answered? Good. Now perhaps you can answer one from all of us:
Assuming that your helper will be working full time for two months, you will pay 320zl above what you thought to be the normal. Please explain why you, as a person who is able to afford two homes when most people in Poland can not even afford half a home, deserves that 320 more than a person who works full time for two months for the 1200zl a month which you clearly think a full-time worker deserves.
BTW: I don't know if you are from the USA or not, but if you aren't I suggest that you contact Al-Qaeda and offer to pretend to be American. I'm sure that they will see the benefit of having somebody like you pretend to be from the USA (i.e. you will make more people of the world hate people from the USA) and give you at least the $100 a month that you are agonising over paying your employee. |
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Alex Shulgin
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| cezarek wrote: |
| Nurses get various other benefits, pensions etc. And they work all month. 10zl an hour is a bit cheap. I pay my cleaner 20. |
Mine asked for 10zl an hour and that is what I paid her. But then she proved to be twice as good as the previous maid (i.e. got more work done in less time and then offered to do more work to fill the extra time) that I upped it to 20zl, which to be honest is less than she is worth. |
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Pollux
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Why would you up someones rate? If you're paying 20 zl for 10 zl worth of work, less power to you.
Alex, you probably realise that most teachers don't make the money you do. You've been here for a while so you can afford to chooose.
Once again, in the city 10 zl/ hr is great, but the OP had it right, in the country it's more like 7-8 zl. |
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cezarek
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| Alex Shulgin wrote: |
| cezarek wrote: |
| Nurses get various other benefits, pensions etc. And they work all month. 10zl an hour is a bit cheap. I pay my cleaner 20. |
Mine asked for 10zl an hour and that is what I paid her. But then she proved to be twice as good as the previous maid (i.e. got more work done in less time and then offered to do more work to fill the extra time) that I upped it to 20zl, which to be honest is less than she is worth. |
In my case, I've known the lady and her family for a few years, and she always stays longer, walks the dog, etc. I suspects she tells her husband that she only gets 10zl - he drinks any money she gets.
If somebody's good, I agree, it's well worth rewarding them. |
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Alex Shulgin
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Pollux wrote: |
| Why would you up someones rate? If you're paying 20 zl for 10 zl worth of work, less power to you. |
I'm not paying her a single groszy more than she is worth. I pay her twice as much per hour as the previous maid because she is twice as good (in terms of how much she gets done and the quality of the work she does)
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| Alex, you probably realise that most teachers don't make the money you do. You've been here for a while so you can afford to chooose. |
Other teachers can't work an extra 45 minutes to give a cleaner a decent amount for five hours of work? Of course they can, but they might not want to.
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| Once again, in the city 10 zl/ hr is great, but the OP had it right, in the country it's more like 7-8 zl. |
10zl per hour is great? So you'll be happy to come and have a great job working for me. I'll give you a great wage. |
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gregoryfromcali
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| BTW: I don't know if you are from the USA or not, but if you aren't I suggest that you contact Al-Qaeda and offer to pretend to be American. I'm sure that they will see the benefit of having somebody like you pretend to be from the USA (i.e. you will make more people of the world hate people from the USA) and give you at least the $100 a month that you are agonising over paying your employee. |
Yes Alex, because if we study the history of your country we could never find a case where the English tried to exploit a less powerful nation for the accumulation of wealth.
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