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Ma'af, kosong Mister!
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Andror



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Ma'af, kosong Mister! Reply with quote

Ma'af, kosong Mister (I'm sorry, we're all out)

Does this happen to you guys often?

Last night I tried to order some Mc Donalds. I was told that they are totally out of sauces but I could order some chicken (except spicey chicken cause it was kosong) Recently they were all out of cheese. No cheeseburgers, or anything else involving cheese.

I'm interested to hear about other teachers experience regarding this...I seem to be constantly asking for everyday products at shops only to be told they have 'run out'. My brand of cigarettes? (Marlboro Lights) Kosong
A Simpati recharge card? Kosong. The thing I want to order on the menu at a restaurant? Kosong.

I'm interested in your views and what the heck is the problem with supply here. I've tried explaining to many business owners that "If a product is popular, buy lots of it!"

Is there a good reason for this 'kosongness'?
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happy_me



Joined: 01 Feb 2006
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Location: In the neighborhood of nirvana

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to Indonesia and local organizational style(wait till we are all out and then order more, never mind it takes 2 weeks to get it), now you can understand why foreign companies don't want to procurer locally, and why when you see something you want buy a months supply.
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gugelhupf



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My local Carrefour supermarket, at irregular and unpredictable intervals, will set out a whole spread of REAL breakfast cereals - muesli, 'Fruits et Fibres' etc. Within days it is 'sudah habis' because all the local bules, including myself, buy it up ten boxes at a time as it might be weeks or even months before we get another chance.

I spoke to the grocery manager, and among the reasons he gave for not stocking more were that these products moved so fast it made the shelf display look untidy unless the shelves were replenished constantly. Selamat datang di Indonesia, om.
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe the expressions i picked up first in jakarta where the ones i most frequently heard. They include;

nggak ada / kosong
nanti aje
gimana yah ?
sebentar
habis pak
susah deh
rusak

all of which seem to sum up life there.

Yes, welcome to Indonesia.

best
basil Smile
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laughing_magpie06



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing you will notice quickly is how most minimarts even with fridges won't put their beer supply in it meaning no cold beer after a hard day at work unless you buy in advance. The few places that do though sell it for an extra 2,000 rp a bottle. ouch!! Rolling Eyes
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happy_me



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should count your blessings here there is no beer or win or anything exempt in the hotels, 3 bars and a duty free were closed 3 months ago, so beer cost 50,000 and drinks are 80,000. like living in another wrold
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happy_me



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should count your blessings here there is no beer or win or anything exempt in the hotels, 3 bars and a duty free were closed 3 months ago, so beer cost 50,000 and drinks are 80,000. like living in another world
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Andror



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The owner of my apartment, who is an Indonesian (asli) woman, told me that during the period of unrest in 1998 (and thereafter) , supplies were simply unavailable. Without the Chinese presence to supply goods, one couldn't get hold of them. "We need them", was her final remark.

I realize that alot of Chinese-Indonesians left the country during that time, but were things any better before the riots when so many Chinese-Indonesians were driven out? Or was supply always so pathetic?

Relying on you experienced guys to answer this.
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gugelhupf



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

happy_me wrote:
You should count your blessings here there is no beer or win or anything exempt in the hotels, 3 bars and a duty free were closed 3 months ago, so beer cost 50,000 and drinks are 80,000. like living in another world


Presumably you're now on the methylated stuff... Wink
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happy_me



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well indo Being what it is, I am on the �what I can find in the local toko� so all I can say is thank someone for the bus terminal and all that goes with it
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amewburn



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:31 am    Post subject: Ma'af, kosong Mister! Reply with quote

happy_me wrote:
well indo Being what it is, I am on the �what I can find in the local toko� so all I can say is thank someone for the bus terminal and all that goes with it


You must be in Pekanbaru. The only thing that made the bus trip back to Medan from Pbaru bearable was the cold beer at the bus terminal and the KFC shop opposite Grammedia.
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happy_me



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You must be in Pekanbaru

No thats a big city, where i am is small town, with PLN turning off the power daly now Evil or Very Mad
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TEAM_PAPUA



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: * Reply with quote

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The only thing that made the bus trip back to Medan from Pbaru bearable was the cold beer at the bus terminal and the KFC shop opposite Grammedia.


Imagine the HORROR of coming to Indonesia and not finding cold beer and KFC - it would be like living in a different country, wouldn't it?
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drgonzo



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be horrible to arrive at a place and not find cold beer... that's what was disappointing about Brunei, and also why I only spent 1 day there.
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xsbir



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:07 am    Post subject: Beer Reply with quote

TEAM_PAPUA wrote:
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The only thing that made the bus trip back to Medan from Pbaru bearable was the cold beer at the bus terminal and the KFC shop opposite Grammedia.


Imagine the HORROR of coming to Indonesia and not finding cold beer and KFC - it would be like living in a different country, wouldn't it?


I don't know how you can put beer and that Yankee hillbilly crap food chain in the same sentence. Beer has been produced for thousands of years and around the world. From Wikipedia: "Beer is one of the oldest human-produced beverages, possibly dating back to at least the 7th millennium BC (perhaps prior even to bread), and recorded in the written history of Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia." While this Bintang and Anker stuff we drink here is crap, it's better than not having beer at all. Good thing cheap foreign beer is available at certain duty free shops in Jakarta.

Personally, I would never go to a place where you couldn't get a cold beer. But that's just me, xsbir.

Cheers and Happy Holidays all Indonesia ESLers.
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