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Will you bring up the shooting tragedy in class?
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Will you bring up the shooting tragedy in class? Reply with quote

I've had three classes so far since the tragic shooting spree in Virginia, and we've ended up talking about it in all three. Students here in Russia are really affected.
How about your classes? Will you bring it up? Has it been brought up? What are the attitudes?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject: Thread Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I brought it up to one of my students.

The shooter immigrated to the US when he was 9 years old. He spent more years in America than any where else. The headlines said he was South Korean.

We talked about identity.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've mentioned it to a couple students, but I don't think it is suitable for any of my classes.

Very tragic.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I will not bring it up. No reason. I teach conversation classes where students barely know how to say introductions, reading and listening classes with the same students who are struggling to catch the least little word (written or spoken), and farm kids who can't even do the above.

I don't teach social studies or current events, either.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my university, none of my students have mentioned it. Some of the teachers with more advanced students have had the subject introduced by the students, leading to some good discussion and debate in the classroom.
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently teaching high school physics and on spring vacation, but I will absolutely bring it up when classes start up next week. I was doing my student teaching when Columbine happened and we set aside the majority of the day for discussions on the issue and made counselors and psychologists available to help students deal with their feelings of safety and trust.

Though we may be far from the incident, we and our students are affected.
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Mike_2003



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody has mentioned it.

I'll discuss it if a student wants to, but I doubt it'll get brought up. Romanians aren't particularly interested in things that don't affect them directly as a general rule.
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Perpetual Traveller



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a discussion class today, with two fairly advanced students, and they brought it up. It followed on from them telling me that a politician was shot and killed in Nagasaki this week. Without that event I do wonder if it would still have been mentioned...

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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Though we may be far from the incident, we and our students are affected.
I really, really don't mean to be insensitive. But can I ask how?

I brought it up with a couple of business students this morning. They said ' yes tragic'- end of story. They were more concerned about about 2 dollars against the pound.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do have some higher level students, but no I didn't bring it up. With an adult student at night the subject was raised by the student and we talked about Nagasaki. Certainly if you teach a current events or discussion class it might be raised. Gun control discussions and comparisons can be interesting, depends on your students' perception of danger.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of my students have mentioned it. They are high beginners so I don't think I will bring it up. If anyone asks me about, it I will answer their questions as best as I can. Me and my co-workers have been talking about it a lot.
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
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Though we may be far from the incident, we and our students are affected.
I really, really don't mean to be insensitive. But can I ask how?

I brought it up with a couple of business students this morning. They said ' yes tragic'- end of story. They were more concerned about about 2 dollars against the pound.


Okay, maybe adult students are not greatly affected, but high school and college students certainly are. These are supposed to be safe learning environments and when an incident like Georgia Tech or Columbine happens students no longer feel that safetly. They often start making judgements about their classmates as to who might be one to go on a killing spree. This in turn further alienates those students who are already on the outside looking in.

After Columbine there were a string of similar incidents, and it is not unlikely that there will be more after this one.
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keepwalking



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach in Peru and one of the victim�s was Peruvian and so I've been very surprised that my students, who are normally very vocal about current events, have not raised it as an issue. There's been a sly comment by one, aimed at a South Korean in the class, stamped upon by me as inappropriate, not to mention insulting, but nothing more in the way of questions or comments.

I would have no problem discussing this in class with them, if they raised it. I wouldn't introduce the topic with this age group, (15-17) I'd let them raise it as and when they were ready or wanted to.
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