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How rapidly is VN developing these days?
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norbdemn



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: How rapidly is VN developing these days? Reply with quote

Wondering how rapidly Vietnam is developing since trading has been renewed with the US etc.?

I understand this is a very broad question. Perhaps you can cite some examples to give us an idea.

I have noticed on other threads that people are commenting that it is exploding! If this is true, how?
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sigmoid



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get your hopes up too much. Vietnam has still has quite a long way to go in terms of development before it begins to resemble Thailand. But things are changing quickly, so there is some general improvement is the quality of life, but not much.

Most of the development is infrastructure projects (water treatment, road improvement, supposedly a subway in Saigon, etc.) and office buildings, housing projects, crappy fast food places and a few convenience stores.

Also, the education business is continually expanding so there is plenty of work around.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But can you get a job without a CELT?
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norbdemn



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Sigmonid. I thought it would take some time before it develops into another Thailand.
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ChuckECheese



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
But can you get a job without a CELT?


If you are white and speaky English, yes.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I get a work permit without a CELT or TEFL?
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UpScope



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No
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mickeyrex



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Teachers cannot (at least right now), but for other positions that actually involve teaching you can get a work permit. Does that make sense? Probably not. That said, most teachers do not have work permits.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting.
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Miyazaki



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So we need a degree to get a teaching position in Vietnam?

Does one also need a TEFL (CELTA, TESOL) certificate?
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norbdemn



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Miyazaki"]So we need a degree to get a teaching position in Vietnam?

Does one also need a TEFL (CELTA, TESOL) certificate?[/quote]

Of course, that's anywhere as well, my friend.
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laconic



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

norbdemn wrote:
Miyazaki wrote:
So we need a degree to get a teaching position in Vietnam?

Does one also need a TEFL (CELTA, TESOL) certificate?


Of course, that's anywhere as well, my friend.


Please define "anywhere." Thank you.
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UpScope



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anywhere;defined as any place that actually seeks to improve the level of English speaking competence rather than uphold,maintain and promote a perception of care.
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laconic



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UpScope wrote:
Anywhere;defined as any place that actually seeks to improve the level of English speaking competence rather than uphold,maintain and promote a perception of care.


Thank you for confirming my suspicions that "anywhere" is really not "anywhere." Cool
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Miyazaki



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

laconic wrote:
UpScope wrote:
Anywhere;defined as any place that actually seeks to improve the level of English speaking competence rather than uphold,maintain and promote a perception of care.


Thank you for confirming my suspicions that "anywhere" is really not "anywhere." Cool


That was funny, but I agree - some people at some times in some places need a university degree and a TEFL certificate, while others do not.

So, while a degree is needed to teach legally in Vietnam, does one also have to have a TEFL certificate?

Thank you.
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