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junkyak
Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 24 Location: LA Cali
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: How different is colombian and mexican spanish? |
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if i study in mexico and then go to colombia, will I get confused? |
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lozwich
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 1536
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Yes. But if you're adaptable, then you'll know two Spanishes.  |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:44 am Post subject: |
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There's a basic Spanish that will serve you anywhere. Mexican Spanish is generally considered to be one of the slowest forms - not dim, but slowest in canter.
For an idea on how slang and some vocabulary differs, check out this website. It's in Spanish, but you can compare vocabulary in an index.
http://www.jergasdehablahispana.org/ |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Colombian Spanish is also concidered to be the "cleanest" Spanish. It has the fewest pronunciation quirks--or so they say. Of course no version is "better" than any other version, just different. While you're in Mexico you could probably catch a Colombian soap opera on TV so you can get the feel for it. I think it's funny how they go around calling each other Ud. in those shows, they're in bed together and using Ud.! How quaint.
My personal recommendation is to study in Chile or Cuba, once you learn to understand them, you can understand ANYBODY.  |
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lozwich
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 1536
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Colombian Spanish varies depending on where in the country you are. Vocabulary also changes slightly depending on geography. Ways of being polite (like saying "pardon", asking for something in a shop or restaurant) is different to any other Spanish speaking country I've been to, and then there are the differences in slang and pronunciation already alluded to.
There are quite a few key phrases that I have to change when speaking Spanish to people from different Spanish speaking countries, and things (especially that I picked up from Spain) that I have to cut right out of my language here unless I want to be thought of as very rude.
So, it does require adaptation, but it is still interesting just the same. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Coger or recoger in Colombia? |
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pirateinpanama
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 93 Location: Panama City, Panama
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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I`ll preface this by saying I`ve never been to Colombia, but with all the thousands of Colombians in Panama, I do have a feel for their Spanish.
Every Colombian I know says that their Spanish is "the best." I tend to believe them. Or is it that because I`m listening to too much "Panamanian Spanish?"
Mexican Spanish for me is the easiest to understand. Maybe that`s because I spent eight years in Houston and taught ESL there.
As for Panama...forget about it! This slang Caribbean language which they try to pass off as Spanish is nearly next to impossible. Ten years later, I`m still at a loss.
Good luck to all.
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lozwich
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 1536
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
Coger or recoger in Colombia? |
Depends. You coger a taxi, or a road, "Cogimos la autopista y despues la 11", but recoger people from the airport.
And, after years of being made fun of because of my particular form of English, I would hesitate to call any language, or variation of one "the best". They're just different, that's all, and appropriate to their particular use. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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MELEE wrote: |
Colombian Spanish is also concidered to be the "cleanest" Spanish. |
I thought that Bolivia, Ecuador and Peru had the best Spanish. But try telling that to a Spaniard. |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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I just have to share my favorite "coger" story!!
Loz, maybe you heard this one? This comes from a coworker, who studied in Spain. Then he was visiting Argentina. He had directions that he was supposed to get bus number XX to get to a certain part of Buenos Aires, but was having a hard time finding that bus. So he stopped a man on the street and asked
�Donde cojo el autobus xx? And the man said, without hesitation,
Pues, �por el escape!
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lozwich
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 1536
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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That's my favourite coger story too, from the same coworker!
I tell it a lot!
Quedarse can mean funny things too.. Once (in Spain) I thought a friend's husband wanted me to go and spend the night with him (quedar can mean 'stay'), with full approval of his wife , but he was just suggesting that we meet up for a couple of beers!! |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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THat's everyone's favourite "coger" story, though I don't think I heard it from the same co-worker.
Everyplace I've ever been is the "best place to learn Spanish." Because their Spanish is the best pronounced, the cleanest, the original, the slowest...you name it. Just ask the locals.
Best,
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lozwich
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 1536
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Justin Trullinger wrote: |
Everyplace I've ever been is the "best place to learn Spanish." Because their Spanish is the best pronounced, the cleanest, the original, the slowest...you name it. Just ask the locals. |
That's exactly my point! If you want to live in Mexico, learn Mexican Spanish, Colombia, Colombian Spanish etc etc. Its there to suit its purpose, to speak to the locals. And when you move to a new Spanish speaking country you learn the new variations. Exactly why there are different Englishes too...
Ok. Off the soapbox now..  |
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junkyak
Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 24 Location: LA Cali
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hey lozwich, where in colombia are you staying at?
Im debating on either bogota or medellin. Which one would you recommend and which is safer? Im still paranoid about the farc and kidnappings. |
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lozwich
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 1536
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Junkyak,
I'm in Bogota. I've never lived in Medellin, so I can't really speak about which place is better. I don't really feel comfortable saying not to worry about the FARC (or various other left wing or paramilitary groups) or kidnappings, but with a minor modification of my behaviour, I've never had any problems. I knew some people who got held up on a bus once, but it was more for money and inconvenience than anything else. They were robbed and then set on their way. General advice is that you don't have to worry about long term kidnapping unless you're important to the cause in some way (or really really upset someone). I wrote somewhere else here about short term kidnappings which can happen to anyone and are simply for robbing purposes.
I was going to suggest you look over on Poor But Happy, but I see there's someone there with your same username, so I guess you've already done that.
Take care,
Lozwich. |
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