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Al'Ma'Arifa International school, Sharjah
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ghost



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Al'Ma'Arifa International school, Sharjah Reply with quote

I have received a possible job offer at this school. Does anyone work there, or can recommend it? The salary offered is mentioned as being up to dirhams 7000 month, with free accommodation or dhs 1500 allowance.

Vacation time - 7 weeks in summer (start work 19 August) and the usual Islam holidays, plus 2.5 week break in winter. The contracts are for two years.

The position is in the High school.

I am concerned that they are offering me a job at this time of year. This would mean that someone either got fired or left, I would assume.

Thanks for any info.

Ghost in Korea
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ghost



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:25 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

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7000 Utd. Arab Emir. Dirham(s) = 1906.11 US Dollar(s)
1 USD = 3.6724 AED
1 AED = 0.272301 USD


According to the currency converter, the salary is only around $1900 u.s. dollars.

Seems very low for the region.

Could this be a mistake? Some teachers in Indonesia make as much as that.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry the hobbit thinks that the salary is very low and reflects the reason why they are always recruiting.Harry the hobbit feels that jumping out of the frying pan will end up with the ghost in the fire.
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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghost, I suspect from your previous posts that you're not a qualified teacher-is that correct? THe salary is high for an unqualified teacher, but a bit low for a qualified teacher. SUrprisingly, this is not so far under the average for k-12 teachers, whose salaries (like the uni teachers) are the only ones that haven't risen in the UAE over the last few years. 9000-9500/month would be a reasonable salary if you were certifed (less if ghost was certifiable).

I don't know what emirate this is in, but 1500 dirhams/month for accommodation will get you jack all in Dubai, abu dhabi, and sharjah. I suspect they might be offering shared accommodation for the stuff that they provide.

It's true that they're offering the job now because someone has done a runner, but it if it's a new school, it may be because they had a spike in enrolment just before the start of the year.

Ghost, I swear in the last few months you've asked about 4 countries and 10 million employers. When are you gonna make a move? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject: B.Ed.... Reply with quote

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Ghost, I suspect from your previous posts that you're not a qualified teacher-is that correct? THe salary is high for an unqualified teacher, but a bit low for a qualified teacher. SUrprisingly, this is not so far under the average for k-12 teachers, whose salaries (like the uni teachers) are the only ones that haven't risen in the UAE over the last few years. 9000-9500/month would be a reasonable salary if you were certifed (less if ghost was certifiable).


No, you are wrong. I am a qualified teacher, with a B.Ed. in Education, and Certified to teach in two Canadian Provinces (Ontario and Quebec).
Member of the Ontario College of Teachers, and the 'Ordre Professionels des Enseignants du Quebec.'

I trained as a French teacher at the University of Windsor (http://www.uwindsor.ca/), Ontario, and in ESL at the Faculty of Education, McGill University, (http://www.mcgill.ca/), Montreal. Teaching French in Ontario was the biggest disappointment of my career in teaching. ESL in Quebec was a little better, but still high stress, and attrition rates for teachers in Quebec have risen in recent years, with substantial numbers of newly qualified teachers leaving the profession within the first 3 years of teaching.

I was offered drhs11,000 + drhms 5000 (accommodation) to teach in Al Ain (IAT Adec project) back in December 2006, that is why the salary seems to be very low.

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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, you are wrong

Well, then you can expect more than they offered, but I do not think you'll be getting 11,000 w/ MOST straight k-12 teaching positions. Exceptions? The al ghad schools who have set the bar much higher than the rest-I wonder if it will last. 11,000 for a qualified teacher w/o any addl responsibility would be limited to a few schools, who would likely pile on addl duties whether you were expecting them or not (American School of Dubai, Dubai English speaking school, Latifah and Rashid might be the only ones in Dubai who will get your near what IAT quoted). 1500 for accommodation in sharjah? run. Get yourself to the jobs fairs in Jan and Feb.
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ghost



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:11 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

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Get yourself to the jobs fairs in Jan and Feb.


Difficult to accomplish. I will still be in Asia at that time. My contract ends April 1, 2008, in Korea, with possibility of finishing earlier, as I have 7 weeks leave scheduled for February/March 2008 with no classes at the Institute for Korean Education of EFL teachers.

Ghost in Korea

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MGreen



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weren't you in your last thread on the ME section talking about how easy it is to get a university gig in the ME. Why are you looking at low end jobs in the UAE, esp. high school ones?

Ah, now I understand, you don't have an MA. At this point, you're better off staying in Korea.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

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Ah, now I understand, you don't have an MA. At this point, you're better off staying in Korea.


Not true, again! People keep saying things about my qualifications which are not true. Bizarre!

For the record, my qualifications: B.A. in French Literature, B.Ed. in Education, M.A. in Communication Studies (Intercultural Communication option/emphasis), 2 year full time University T.E.S.L. Certificate at the Faculty of Education, McGill University. I am a Certified Teacher in the Provinces of Ontario and Quebec, Canada. Licensed to teach French in Ontario, and ESL in Quebec.

I went back to University from 1999-2002 to get my Teaching degrees at McGill and the University of Windsor. Believe me, it was not easy. I was a 'mature student' at the time, and doing practicums with a bunch of young teachers was not easy, as well as being evaluated by my evaluators, who were also all far younger. I almost 'threw in the towel' during one horrible practicum, in which I was being persecuted by a witch like 'cooperating' teacher. Luckily I stayed the course. But it was borderline and high stress. Obtaining the B.Ed. was far more challenging compared with the M.A. The B.Ed. coursework was not difficult, but the practicums were tough, because there were so many variables (students, and cooperating teachers/mentors) that you could not control. I disliked the appalling subjectivity of 'evaluations.'

My resume is on a teacher's website, and I am getting all these offers. I should just sit and wait until a viable one comes up.

Thank you.

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MGreen



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about that, saw the previous post and no mention of MA. With your qualifications, I would apply for universities positions and/or with a known international school. I'd only be looking at places with a starting salary of 11,500-12,000AED.

Or go to Doha and apply at CNA.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghost
this is a low level position with an employer who is suspect. As you point out why are they hiring now ?

You cando better than this.
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ghost



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

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ghost
this is a low level position with an employer who is suspect. As you point out why are they hiring now ?

You cando better than this.


Thank you. Scot: As you know, I am still waiting to hear from a certain employer that you are familiar with, and that remains my first choice, but if that does not work out, it is better to have other options.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

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Or go to Doha and apply at CNA.


Could you fill me in on this? What do those initials stand for?

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trapezius



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CNA = College of the North Atlantic

Canadian college with a campus in Qatar.

With your qualifications, you can easily get a job paying SR. 11,000 to 15,000 in any of the Western schools in Saudi. (and furnished housing)

Even in Saudi higher ed institutions you can expect to get at leat 10,000 basic salary.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghost,

next to math or physics I've always thought that french teachers were the most sought after. Have you ever looked at tieonline.com?
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