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bosnian



Joined: 17 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:41 am    Post subject: A questions from a newbie Reply with quote

Hi all,

I'm currently attending an University in Canada and I'm going toward a BA in (Major) English (Minor in History). Can you guys tell me what I sould do to get a job teaching overseas, preferably anywhere in Middle East or North Africa. Do I need a Telf or can I just use my degree. I still have a few years before I'm done school. I also speak and write French, Bosnian and some limited Arabic.

How is the job market overseas?

For the jobs that are advertised on this website, what is the rejection rate. If it is very high what are the other options when looking for employment?

How hard is it to get into Saudi or UAE?

I have many other questions. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Javid
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dduck



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Posts: 422
Location: In the middle

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scot47 should come with a health warning. Something like "Consumption of too much Scot47 could seriously damage your hopes, aspirations, self-image, sexual performance, will to live ... Wink

Seriously Scot, you should think about adding some warning to your signature. A newbie crawls out of the woodwork and there's you scaring them back in. Confused

Iain
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rogan



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Posts: 416
Location: at home, in France

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me and Scot47 know what a 'tell' is, do you?

Maybe I should say "Scot47 and I know what a 'tell' is, do you?"

Comments, obsecations and criticisms?

And, by the way, define 'tell' before you answer. Laughing
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lajzar



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Posts: 647
Location: Saitama-ken, Japan

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scot, pray tell, what does hwre mean? If you're going to flame a newbie for these kinds of mistakes, expect the same in return.
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J-Pop



Joined: 07 Oct 2003
Posts: 215
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:08 am    Post subject: "tell" us about "obsecation . . . Reply with quote

rogan wrote:
Me and Scot47 know what a 'tell' is, do you?

Maybe I should say "Scot47 and I know what a 'tell' is, do you?"

Comments, obsecations and criticisms?

And, by the way, define 'tell' before you answer. Laughing


Firstly, "Me and Scot47 . . . " is fine. Too, "Scot47 and me . . . " is also acceptable. For some, old time stuck-in-the mud teachers of English (unlike my prof at uni), "Scot47 and I . . . " sounds better, but is not inherently superior to the other renditions.

Secondly,
I know the verb "tell," (as in "to tell") & I've heard rumors (rumours, for some others) of a certain personage from the past, "William Tell."

However, help us out . . . pray tell, what is a "tell."
Did you mean, rather than "tell," to write "telf" as in TEFL?

Or, OTOH, do you mean a "tell," as in "mound, or hill," derived from Arabic for "tall"? specifically : an ancient mound in the Middle East composed of remains of successive settlements ? Laughing

Next, pray tell us the meaning (a definition will do nicely) of "obsecations"?
Did you mean "observations"? Cool Or was, perhaps, obfuscation(s) what you actually had in mind? Smile
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J-Pop



Joined: 07 Oct 2003
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Location: USA

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:29 am    Post subject: civil attempt . . . Reply with quote

dduck wrote:
Scot47 should come with a health warning. Something like "Consumption of too much Scot47 could seriously damage your hopes, aspirations, self-image, sexual performance, will to live ... Wink

Seriously Scot, you should think about adding some warning to your signature. A newbie crawls out of the woodwork and there's you scaring them back in. Confused

Iain

Iain, aka dduck,
Your message strikes me as a civlized, humorous & lighthearted attempt to communicate something important & serious.

I've thought the same thing, basically, as what you write.
Though, admittedly, the words I had in mind would not (probably) sound as nice as yours do! Cool

Nice avatar! "Como va el espanol"? Bien, lo espero Exclamation Smile
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bosnian



Joined: 17 Oct 2003
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be very nice if someone answered my questions in a constructive manner. Thanks.
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dyak



Joined: 25 Jun 2003
Posts: 630

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone else loathe the word 'newbie' as much as I do?

Can't we call it the 'New Teachers Question and Answer Forum' or something like that instead?

I'm sure new students don't get treated the way new teachers (sometimes) do here.
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scot47



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:51 am    Post subject: ridicule Reply with quote

Rites of initiation and hazing are universal. The phenomenon of ridiculing the newcomer ("newbie") happens in the Marines. Why should TEFL teachers be immune ?

We need more rites of passage ! Especially for Bosnians who want a telf !
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:24 am    Post subject: