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Some help! First timer (newbie)!!
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ElAvilaMahoney



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Some help! First timer (newbie)!! Reply with quote

Well, how do I start my first post, and first plea for assistance...

My name is Brendan, I'm 23 years old with a few years of college but no Univ. degree. I recently got my TEFL online through i-to-i.com. I plan on going to Latin America to find a job. From what I understand, it isn't completely necessary to hold a Univ. degree to teach in LA..is this true? It's my biggest concern...From what I've read the private schools are the employers interested in seeing Univ. degrees, is this true?

I already speak Spanish 100% fluently, I lived in Caracas for 3 years when I was very young, so it stayed in my head nicely and I even lack the gringo accent! Woohoo! I am planning a trip, with one-way ticket to Guatemala, in January. From there I plan on traveling CentAm until Panama..then flying to Ecuador. (Bypassing Colombia for security reasons).

So I guess I'm asking for suggestions on where to go, where to teach, what to expect in the job markets in LA..is there anyone that could offer me some helpful advice? I'd truly appreciate it!

Thanks everyone who took the time to read this. Cheers, Brendan.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From what I've read the private schools are the employers interested in seeing Univ. degrees, is this true?


For the better jobs, yes. They'll also prefer experience. You might be best served by looking into a language school.

Also, a uni degree may be needed to be issued a work permit in your selected country, though, it does seem common practice to work on a tourist visa and do border runs in many places in LA.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted my reply in the general discussion forum Very Happy
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ElAvilaMahoney



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
it does seem common practice to work on a tourist visa and do border runs in many places in LA.


I'm not quite sure what this means? what is a border run?
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ElAvilaMahoney



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How frustrating! I thought it was as simple as getting a TEFL Certificate, being a native English speaker, and going down there and finding a job!?

Ahhhh my whole plan is down the drain!!!!! <jumps off the edge>
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't give up hope...it simply isn't quite as easy as they sold it to you (I suspect).

By border run, I meant that when your tourist visa expires, you cross a land border into a neighboring country, stay 2 or 3 days, then re-enter, obtaining a new visa. This is pretty common in Central America and some South American countries. If you check through the Latin America country forums, you'll find a number of threads dealing with this topic.

As I mentioned in your other topic, working under the table is illegal, so do be careful if you do it.
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ElAvilaMahoney



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
By border run, I meant that when your tourist visa expires, you cross a land border into a neighboring country, stay 2 or 3 days, then re-enter, obtaining a new visa. This is pretty common in Central America and some South American countries. If you check through the Latin America country forums, you'll find a number of threads dealing with this topic.


Ahh ok, yes I've heard of people doing this. It sounds like something I may end up having to do.

Like I said in my other topic, I'm really not interested in making loads of money. It's just about living abroad, gaining a small living to survive on, and be able to take in the cultural entertainment that I lack in the USA. Hopefully I get lucky somewhere on my journey.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll most likely do fine. It's good to be aware that in your position you're not going to make oodles of cash. Some people come down with other ideas unfortunately. Picking this part of the world is always going to more about the lifestyle change and experiencing the culture, which in my opinion is second to none.

Last piece of advice I can think of...make sure you're bankrolled enough to get through the first month or two before landing a job. The first paycheque might not be in for a little while until you settle in.
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ElAvilaMahoney



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give me some numbers Guy!

I've already got my plane ticket paid for down to Guatemala....probably going to be holding around $3000 US....

Plan on traveling from Guate to ES then to HON, then NIC, then CR, then PAN....about a week in each country more or less..
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking for work or just traveling through towards hopeful employment in South America?

$3000 us should be fine...though you could spend all of it on fun if you want. Watch out crossing the Darien Gap from Panama into SA.
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ElAvilaMahoney



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traveling through CentAm to SA in hope of employment....obviously the more money the merrier! (If I can find a job in CentAm I'd be happy with that as well! But I really just want to see more of South America, i.e. Peru, Chile, Ecuador, Argentina and Brasil)

You mention the Darien Gap..I've read much about this..and haven't figured out the best way to get around it. I've thought about flying from Panama into Quito and going from there going south, since Machu Pichu and Nazca are some places that I'd really like to visit..but that is about $400 to fly and certainly it would be worth it..but after reading someone post of Colombia..I feel like a schmuck if I completely bypass Colombia....even with it's dangers...any ideas??
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john_n_carolina



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

....many people say, "No problem, take the bus"..in Colombia. i wouldn't go near Colombian busses that travel South. i have too many horror stories that i won't post here.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an idea. Why not look into one of those organizations that will post you in an "internship" position, where you'll teach, get experience, maybe even training, and probably some college credit that will count torwards your eventual degree? I believe Amerispan does things like this. They'll arrange appropriate visas, and usually either provide housing or give you a small stipen for housing. Then at the end of your stint you can move on to another country and you'll have valuable experience on your resume.
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ElAvilaMahoney



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:
Here's an idea. Why not look into one of those organizations that will post you in an "internship" position, where you'll teach, get experience, maybe even training, and probably some college credit that will count torwards your eventual degree? I believe Amerispan does things like this. They'll arrange appropriate visas, and usually either provide housing or give you a small stipen for housing. Then at the end of your stint you can move on to another country and you'll have valuable experience on your resume.


Thanks for the idea Melee, I've thought about that kind of thing before. It would fit me perfectly, right up my alley. It's a shame that "volunteering" is rarely actually "volunteering" as Amerispan is asking me to give them upwards of $1100 to 'place' me in Costa Rica. How unfortunate.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But they give you a lot of that money back, in includes your visa fees, you lodging, etc. You could do it alone for a heck of a lot more.
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