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asgerd

Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 33
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: quality of internet connection? |
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If you're anywhere in Russia, could you tell me what your internet situation is (at home) - speed and cost? Former SSRs also of interest.
I'm hoping to keep a bit of an online editing job, while returning to teaching, somewhere in Central/Eastern Europe/Russia/'Stans. The income would ease other pains but I need a fairly reliable connection (at least 1MB... that passes for acceptable where I live now). Some school blurbs suggest it can suffer from server overloads which I understand to mean it's pretty rubbish.
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: In Ukraine |
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In Kyiv you can get DSL with 512K guarranteed for $84/month. There have been a few outages in the last year and a half, one lasting about 8 days, but it has been stable for the last 5-6 months. Cable is much cheaper but also more variable depending on the time of day and the users in your area. |
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canucktechie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 343 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Moscow - www.stream.ru |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 867 Location: Russia
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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I can pay from 200-1000 rubles ($8-$40) for various limits of traffic with ethernet. As ec said, speed varies. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: To clarify |
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That Kyiv DSL price was for unlimited upload/download at a minmum guarranteed speed of 512K. Even when I run 2 PC's at the same time on the connection it is still solid performance. |
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asgerd

Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 33
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Thanks - very helpful.
@ canuck - I don't read Russian! but I think I see a 1024/512 offer in there somewhere. Do you use them, and is it a reliable connection? |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 867 Location: Russia
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: To clarify |
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ecocks wrote: |
That Kyiv DSL price was for unlimited upload/download at a minmum guarranteed speed of 512K. Even when I run 2 PC's at the same time on the connection it is still solid performance. |
FTR, standard English spelling of the Ukranian capital is still Kiev. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: Not in the United States |
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maybe the UK or some other places still do it that way but the U.S. switched over a year ago. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: Here you go |
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Newly-independent Ukraine declared Ukrainian the only official language after 1991, and introduced a national Latin-alphabet standard for geographic names in 1995, establishing the use of the spelling Kyiv in all official documents issued by the governmental authorities since October 1995. The spelling is used by the United Nations, NATO, some foreign diplomatic missions and a number of media organizations, notably in Canada. On October 3, 2006, the United States federal government changed its official spelling of the city name to Kyiv.[21] The alternate romanizations Kyyiv (BGN/PCGN transliteration) and Kyjiv (scholarly) are also in use alongside Kiev in English-language atlases. Most major English-language news sources, however, such as CNN, BBC, and the Associated Press, continue to use Kiev.
In the Ukrainian language itself, the name of the city was pronounced Kiev until only about 100 years ago.[20]
[21] - State Department briefing discussing the BGN spelling decision, October 19, 2006
From Wikipedia.
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: Oooops |
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clicked SUBMIT instead of PREVIEW.
The above post was excerpted from Wikipedia but has the valid reference to the US Dept. of State announcement that the official name was to be switched on all maps and documents utilized by the DoS. |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 867 Location: Russia
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Here you go |
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ecocks wrote: |
Newly-independent Ukraine declared Ukrainian the only official language after 1991, and introduced a national Latin-alphabet standard for geographic names in 1995, establishing the use of the spelling Kyiv in all official documents issued by the governmental authorities since October 1995. The spelling is used by the United Nations, NATO, some foreign diplomatic missions and a number of media organizations, notably in Canada. On October 3, 2006, the United States federal government changed its official spelling of the city name to Kyiv.[21] The alternate romanizations Kyyiv (BGN/PCGN transliteration) and Kyjiv (scholarly) are also in use alongside Kiev in English-language atlases. Most major English-language news sources, however, such as CNN, BBC, and the Associated Press, continue to use Kiev.
In the Ukrainian language itself, the name of the city was pronounced Kiev until only about 100 years ago.[20]
[21] - State Department briefing discussing the BGN spelling decision, October 19, 2006
From Wikipedia. |
Good for them.
They don't dictate the English language. I don't let the government determine standard spelling or my thinking for me. Language is determined by standard usage.
I don't see anyone rushing out to change the spelling or pronunciation of Rome (Roma) or Moscow (Moskva).
When I want to change my language to what some Ukranians want, I will. I say that as a multicultural, multi-lingual dude living overseas myself. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: Whatever, |
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You were the one who brought it up as FTR.
The folks living here seem to have pretty much switched over with relatively little fuss. We now have the Kyiv Post and Kyiv Weekly papers.
But to each, their own, spell it how you want when you type it then. |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 867 Location: Russia
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:37 am Post subject: Re: Whatever, |
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ecocks wrote: |
You were the one who brought it up as FTR.
The folks living here seem to have pretty much switched over with relatively little fuss. We now have the Kyiv Post and Kyiv Weekly papers.
But to each, their own, spell it how you want when you type it then. |
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asgerd

Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 33
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: |
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bump
Thanks all (and for the interesting sidetrack!)
So I know now that a reasonably solid 512k connection is available, at a price, in the big cities. Is this also the case in more remote parts - cities of W Siberia, the south, etc?
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Zajko
Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 130 Location: No Fixed Address :)
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: |
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ADSL broadband concnection is becoming more widely available here in W. Siberia - takes a few days to get a line fixed and not that cheap (costs me about USD 150 a month right now for unlimited use but that price should go down in time) but the service is fine and comparable to any broadband service you'd get in the West or the Gulf. |
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