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Yew Chung Shanghai- opinions?
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Nimah



Joined: 14 May 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Yew Chung Shanghai- opinions? Reply with quote

Hello,

Just received an offer: 21,000 plus the usual perks. I'm a fully qualified teacher with a years experience, but this will be my first international post. Looks like the contract could potentially be less then a year as well.

Any thoughts on the salary and the school? I've read a few posts that don't seem to be too flattering to the school.

Cheers.
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phantombedwetter



Joined: 29 Nov 2007
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Location: Pikey infested, euro, cess-pit (Krakow)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good salary, I was on about that as a manager.
Almost too good to be true after 1 year teaching.
Track down teachers from the school and check it out.

PM me a link and I'll ask around some old colleagues.
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The_Hanged_Man



Joined: 10 Oct 2004
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Location: Tbilisi, Georgia

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just checked http://internationalschoolsreview.com/ and I strongly suggest you contact teachers currently working there before accepting a contract. Most of the reviews (and there are lots of them) in the above site are strongly negative citing a poor administration and a profit seeking orientation. You have to take everything on ISR with a grain of salt, but there seems to an overwhelming consensus that Yew Chung is a place to avoid.
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phantombedwetter



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Nimah,
I echo the above post from hanged man, but I can't find any clarification on that salary, could you reveal how you arrived at that figure?
Thanks
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Nimah



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't arrive...was told by the co-principal himself. I'm definitely being cautious about the whole thing, but I do want to get out and teach and I don't want to commit to the 2 year contract so I may pass on this one.
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11:59



Joined: 31 Aug 2006
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Location: Hong Kong: The 'Pearl of the Orient'

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

21,000 RMB seems very low for an international school, though I suppose this may just reflect your relative lack of experience. And this is a very important point, for � and do not take this the wrong way � why would a semi-decent international school employ someone with such limited work experience? This should, perhaps, set off alarm bells. I do not know about Shanghai but here in Hong Kong students at Yew Chung International School (Secondary Section) pay some $13,000 HK a month for tuition fees alone (I believe it is around the same in Shanghai, though they also have to pay a mandatory debenture of around $100,000 HK here in Hong Kong.) Given such sums I think 21,000 Yuan a month is very low, even with your quite modest experience.

As regards the two-year contract, that would be the norm at most if not all international schools, though especially those running the IBD (International Baccalaureate Diploma), of which of course Yew Chung is one such school.


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Umm Banat



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long from your interview was it til the offer? or was it made there and then?
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The_Hanged_Man



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

11:59 wrote:
21,000 RMB seems very low for an international school, though I suppose this may just reflect your relative lack of experience.


Actually, 21,000RMB is quite decent in mainland China (assuming it includes housing), and is right around what most proper schools pay. Shanghai American School, which is widely regarded as one of the one the top schools in Asia, only has a salary range of $32,000-48,000 annually before taxes which is only around 25,000RMB monthly. Two other high paying school are Nanjing International School which tops out at $57,000 net annually, and American Int'l School of Guangzhou at $67,000. The vast majority of schools pay somewhere around $25,000-45,000 annually depending on experience. Also, there are many 2nd and 3rd tier schools that only pay around 15,000RMB monthly. I have access to an international school database and have just finished the recruiting process myself so I know these figures are correct.

Now, schools in HKG are a different kettle of fish. There are schools there that pay over $100,000 annually there (CIS for example), but of course the cost of living is correspondingly higher. One couple at my current school was just hired at Aramco in Saudi and will make over $200,000 tax free combined including housing with a full benefits package to boot. These schools are notable exceptions though. The vast majority of international schools in world pay around $30-40k, although Latin American schools tend to range from $20-30k. British schools tend to range higher but generally provide fewer benefits than American and IB schools.
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